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Started May 27, 2020 by Deleted user

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Did you mean to say the Quakers and Unitarians? Cuz the Puritans were very not progressive to my knowledge.

Um. You won’t find this as humorous as I did but. This explains it.

I'm glad you're aware that I was going to find it problematic, pointless, and a little offensive? It doesn't explain it.

If people wanna have sex they should deal with the consequences. Like adults should do with any privilege.

But- birth control is them dealing with the consequences. Having ways to have fewer consequences for something safely isn't a bad thing at all.

But I still can decide to. So in a way I still don’t get it.

Imagine if you couldn't choose. If idk. There was glitter eyeshadow stuck permanently to your eyelids and every time you put something on, it turned into a dress. Or if you walked outside in pants and a man beat you up because to everyone else it looks like you're wearing a dress.

Did you mean to say the Quakers and Unitarians? Cuz the Puritans were very not progressive to my knowledge.

I was doing some research that said the Puritans but I guess it could be wrong?

1. Viagra is such less a need than birth control. It helps men get off. Birth control and condoms exist for health and safety. I can't believe that was even a part of that video.

Viagra is stupid and should also not be paid for by anyone else.

1. If you think abortion wasn't illegalized specifically to demonize women for 'wanting smaller families' and to control their bodies, you're batshit. It had nothing to do with religious reasons. The Puritans were a lot more progressive than you think and before the 1800s, not even religion was going to try to stop you, but again, banned topic so moving on. Just thought I'd mention it. Your idea of other people having sex is some toxic purity culture bullshit.

Idk where you got that. All of that actually.
But abortion was brought back to kill black people. Margret Sanger. Eugenist.

Did you mean to say the Quakers and Unitarians? Cuz the Puritans were very not progressive to my knowledge.

Yeah they were very Yikes. Quakers were way more chill. Helped bring about religious freedom.

Dom do you have a response to my thingy

But I still can decide to. So in a way I still don’t get it.

Imagine if you couldn't choose. If idk. There was glitter eyeshadow stuck permanently to your eyelids and every time you put something on, it turned into a dress. Or if you walked outside in pants and a man beat you up because to everyone else it looks like you're wearing a dress.

Oookay. (Not sarcasm.)

Dom do you have a response to my thingy

I have the same answer to the others so I didn’t. Personal responsibility with sex basically.

Um. You won’t find this as humorous as I did but. This explains it.

I'm glad you're aware that I was going to find it problematic, pointless, and a little offensive? It doesn't explain it.

If people wanna have sex they should deal with the consequences. Like adults should do with any privilege.

But- birth control is them dealing with the consequences. Having ways to have fewer consequences for something safely isn't a bad thing at all.

Sure sure. Except they should be buying their safety net. Not forcing others to buy it for them.

Dom do you have a response to my thingy

I have the same answer to the others so I didn’t. Personal responsibility with sex basically.

But if you're prolife then why wouldn't you wanna prevent abortions the only way you can? Like isn't that what being prolife is all about? I'm prolife (but don't think the govt should take away the abortion commodity) and I don't want people to have abortions (but think they should have the choice). The only way to prevent that is to educate and provide contraceptives. What's your proposal for reducing abortions?

Um. You won’t find this as humorous as I did but. This explains it.

I'm glad you're aware that I was going to find it problematic, pointless, and a little offensive? It doesn't explain it.

If people wanna have sex they should deal with the consequences. Like adults should do with any privilege.

But- birth control is them dealing with the consequences. Having ways to have fewer consequences for something safely isn't a bad thing at all.

Sure sure. Except they should be buying their safety net. Not forcing others to buy it for them.

Look, I get it. We live in a capitalist world where everything is about money, and not actually people being able to take care of themselves. I'm not going to get into that, but I've said my piece. I'm already under a lot of stress from talks with my father about these things, and it was impulsive of me to say anything, but I did, and I stand by it. And is it so horrible to ask that people are able to take care of their health this way instead of having to get a much more expensive abortion or even even more expensive birth later on?

Swim. I don’t want to have to pay for other people by force. I have nothing against charity. I think all people are morally obligated to give. But it should be a choice.

Dom. There are plenty other things that taxpayers unwillingly pay for

Dom do you have a response to my thingy

I have the same answer to the others so I didn’t. Personal responsibility with sex basically.

But if you're prolife then why wouldn't you wanna prevent abortions the only way you can? Like isn't that what being prolife is all about? I'm prolife (but don't think the govt should take away the abortion commodity) and I don't want people to have abortions (but think they should have the choice). The only way to prevent that is to educate and provide contraceptives. What's your proposal for reducing abortions?

You’re ProChoice. You think people should have the choice. That’s what being ProChoice is about.
The only way is to not have abortions. That’s the only “only way”.
I want it illegal. I want people to realize sex leads to babies because that’s super basic. I want a multitude of places where people provide help to people so that they don’t feel the need for an abortion.

Dom. There are plenty other things that taxpayers unwillingly pay for

And I probably hate them all and also don’t want to pay them. This one is just especially relevant to this conversation.

I want it illegal. I want people to realize sex leads to babies because that’s super basic. I want a multitude of places where people provide help to people so that they don’t feel the need for an abortion.

That's not going to stop them. People don't like abortions, they have them because they need them and you're not going to change people's opinion on it by making it illegal. They're not going to stop having them, they're just going to be dangerous. And planned parenthood.. already does that, don't they? They don't just do abortions, I'm pretty sure they also help people out so they don't need one.

so dom hates school funding, and city betterment projects. good to know

I want it illegal. I want people to realize sex leads to babies because that’s super basic. I want a multitude of places where people provide help to people so that they don’t feel the need for an abortion.

That's not going to stop them. People don't like abortions, they have them because they need them and you're not going to change people's opinion on it by making it illegal. They're not going to stop having them, they're just going to be dangerous. And planned parenthood.. already does that, don't they? They don't just do abortions, I'm pretty sure they also help people out so they don't need one.

Making it illegal will shut down numbers. And people will not be dying in droves like they say.
PP has a propaganda team. Abortion is their Deal. It’s their money maker. They do other stuff sometimes. But abortion is what they stand for.

so dom hates school funding, and city betterment projects. good to know

Not in it of themselves. Gov just makes things worse. Look at the schools.

Making it illegal will shut down numbers.

No. It won't. They won't be reported because it will be illegal but they're not going to stop. It's naive and quite frankly plainly uneducated to think they will.

And people will not be dying in droves like they say.

?????

PP has a propaganda team. Abortion is their Deal. It’s their money maker. They do other stuff sometimes. But abortion is what they stand for.

This is the very top of their website:

Our medical professionals are experts in reproductive health who serve with one mission - providing high quality, compassionate care. No matter what. Schedule an appointment today.

And then they have links to what they do, one of which being birth control.
This is what shows up under the link when you Google "planned parenthood":

Same or Next Day Appointment. Receive Trusted Care at One of Our Centers. Visit Planned Parenthood Today! Trusted Health Services. Affordable Options. 100% Confidentiality. Services: Birth Control, STD Testing, Men's Health Care, LGBTQ Services, HIV Testing, Pregnancy Testing, Women's Health Care.

Do your own research before you claim that something's a "propaganda team" jfc

I’ve listened to the people who used to work there and then became ProLife after what they saw and did.

Making it illegal will shut down numbers.

No. It won't. They won't be reported because it will be illegal but they're not going to stop. It's naive and quite frankly plainly uneducated to think they will.

It might make people not so casual about sex when they realize they would have to either care for a child or find a person working an illegal trade. It would reduce numbers simply by the fact that you wouldn’t be able to google directions.

And people will not be dying in droves like they say.

?????

People always saw it will end in back alley abortions that will kill millions.

OKAY NO MORE ABORTION TALK

I know this is not completely about abortion, but it’s getting a little too close.

It might make people not so casual about sex when they realize they would have to either care for a child or find a person working an illegal trade. It would reduce numbers simply by the fact that you wouldn’t be able to google directions.

It won't though. It's literally been illegal and that's not what happened. And I will not be googling it but I'm fairly fucking sure you can Google directions, and it being illegal wouldn't change that. I need you to like. Actually look up what happened during the time it was illegal because it seems like I remember more from talking about it briefly in world history my freshman year than you know.
We're not saying it's going to kill millions, we're saying it's not safe. Not killing millions ≠ safe
I'd also like to remind you that this is a banned subject and this is the reason why.

Sorry mox

Sorry mox

It’s okay, I just didn’t there to be anything more than what already was said

i vote we just drop the entire conversation right here and now. i'm no mod, but i'm not stupid enough to believe that this "conversation" is going anywhere

And this is why I don’t get involved with my parent’s bullshit views 😂😂

Moving swiftly on, I’d like to be rude to literally ever asshole who thinks they know me and what goes on in my life and then decide to make comments about how I should “eat more” and “get some sleep”. Like, bitch? First of all, I talk to three (3) people on a regular basis so don’t fucking assume you know me. Secondly, if it was as simple as “eat more” and “get some sleep” then I would do it! But unfortunately I don’t like a carefree life like you overglorified Girl Scouts and have a lot more on my plate that leaves little room for food and sleep. How dare you think you have the right to make comments about my life when you have no fucking clue what I have to deal with!

That is all, thank you.

Have y'all heard the audio of trump pardoning the turkey? Because I haven't even seen the video and I'm in tears it's hilarious