They literally agreed to draw lots and whoever lost got killed and eaten, and the guy who lost tried to back out when he realized he was gonna get eaten.
The other two were put to death for trying to survive at sea by killing and eating their friend. What the fuck, 19th century England? I mean, I already knew you had some Bad Legal Takes, but seriously?
What the fuck, 19th century England?
Yup, we will forever say this for as long as England remains standing— but change “19th century” to just every century.
The way you phrased it made me question your views about eating people, Jyn.
eating people for survival, particularly willing people–tho this guy was a fuckin wuss–is not in any way problematic and should never have been considered so
if it's necessary for survival, then unfortunately you gotta do what you gotta do. at least it wasn't, like, picking one at random and killing him in his sleep without his knowledge. they drew sticks and had an agreement
at least they didn't kill a kid and eat em
The way you phrased it made me question your views about eating people, Jyn.
Generally against, but if it's your only choice for survival, you gotta do what you gotta do.
Mmm, I think, perhaps if you get the body ethically, there is nothing wrong with cannibalism. What's a little munching between bros
eating people for survival, particularly willing people–tho this guy was a fuckin wuss–is not in any way problematic and should never have been considered so
Especially since that motherfucker would've been fine with killing and eating one of the other guys, but when it was him, he pussied out. If I drew lots and lost, I would simply ready myself for death and let my friends live on by eating me, rip to him but I'm different.
Although tbh I also wouldn't have confessed to the people who picked us up that I'd helped to kill and eat someone, I'd just say he died of natural causes and then we ate him.
my mom: reads book on Native American history
me: :DDD
my mom: “they got married at as young as 13, they performed human sacrifices, and they didn’t believe in god. do you see how wrong that is? I know people try to argue it but they needed the europeans, civilization here was not a bad thing, they didn’t have any morals and would’ve been doomed without us”
me: DDD:<
I'm disgusted
No offense Ella but every time I hear about your mom I dislike her more and more.
Bruhhhhh 🤦♀️
I had to sit there in shock for a moment to make sure I was hearing things correctly :)))
Does she have any reading comprehension skills? Because I'd be willing to bet that that wasn't the point of the book
you're right, they didn't believe in god. they believed in multiple gods and spirits, and had a pretty damn good relationship and respect for the earth. some tribes even drank their respect women juice (matriarchal/matrilineal)
can't really say that for the europeans :/
lmao yeah let's gloss over the fact that the europeans also married off preteen girls, and massacred people on genocidal levels for whatever reasons they wanted, including but not limited to differing religious beliefs(despite the fact that jesus was crucified for believing in god and therefore that's hypocritical as hell–), different customs, not speaking the english language, existing, etc
Also are we just gonna pretend that the Europeans weren't marrying teenagers because…
Oof Crocs beat me to it
ah, gotta love hypocrites
'They didn't have morals'
well if they didn't, then the Europeans who, just off the top of my head:
Kicked them off their own land
Gave them deadly diseases that their bodies didn't have a resistance to both purposefully and accidentally, killing off almost all of them
Got them addicted to alcohol just so they could sell them more
Murdered them for little to no reason
certainly didn't have morals
and the worst part is my siblings believe her about it all
every bad take she has, my little sister (not Emma, thank god. the other one) has repeated or even exaggerated at some point, same with my brother
I feel sick thinking about it
what happened to that talk you gave us the other day, mother? You know, the “if there’s anything at all that I want you to take away from this, one simple lesson I want you to understand, it’s that you should never hate someone for their culture or the color of their skin.” conversation?
what happened to that talk you gave us the other day, mother? You know, the “if there’s anything at all that I want you to take away from this, one simple lesson I want you to understand, it’s that you should never hate someone for their culture or the color of their skin.” conversation?
that doesn't apply to her, don't you know?
if you think about it. The Native Americans were doing pretty good. The only reason people see them as “inferior” is because of how different their culture was. I’m not saying that they’re without flaws, everything has them, but they were all pretty chill. And they were the first to use/invent a lot of stuff that’s commonplace today. like A LOT of stuff. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_pre-Columbian_inventions_and_innovations_of_indigenous_Americans
Even the Aztecs a bit further south are a notable example. They were doing pretty good with mathematics and their medicine.
also the aztecs were one of the few civilizations in the world to implement mandatory education for all regardless of gender, rank or station and imo that in itself is different compared to what you saw going in in europe for most of history.
the europeans looked at everyone that was different from them, scoffed, called them a "savage" and proceeded to take over like a spoiled brat that thinks they know how everything should be because they're the only one that can possibly be right. if you resist, you lose life. if you think differently, you lose life. be like them in every way possible, and you'll be treated as inferior but won't be killed
didn't the aztecs and a bunch of other cultures have plumbing? like the europeans showed up and were like 'you guys are savages' and they were like 'we have laws, religion, plumbing, and a lot more than you do' and then the europeans were like 'genocide time!'
like. the europeans were hit so hard by the plague because they didn't know you should bathe regularly lmao. but yeah, let's call native americans and latin peoples savage
Also are we just gonna pretend that the Europeans weren't marrying teenagers because…
Exactly. Plus, Ella, I know your mom is Christian, does she like… know what ancient Israel was like? They married kids, made animal sacrifices, and had shoddy morals. Like. Bruh. And that was all supposedly ordered by God. Being monotheistic does not equal having morals. The colonizers sucked.
List of early civilizations with plumbing:
Also are we just gonna pretend that the Europeans weren't marrying teenagers because…
Exactly. Plus, Ella, I know your mom is Christian, does she like… know what ancient Israel was like? They married kids, made animal sacrifices, and had shoddy morals. Like. Bruh. And that was all supposedly ordered by God. Being monotheistic does not equal having morals. The colonizers sucked.
It's not even hard to describe modern day catholicism and other branches of christianity in a way that people like her view indigenous religions like she's just being willfully ignorant and hateful