@hollow-boned
on that note can they stop pairing all the guys with all the girls so that everyone is all coupled up by the end of the story, it's such a shitty move
on that note can they stop pairing all the guys with all the girls so that everyone is all coupled up by the end of the story, it's such a shitty move
@ Uncle Rick
Yeah
Cough Caleo Cough
@ Uncle Rick
at least uncle rick put some diversity into it so it's a little less cringy lmao
Yeah but he handles it carelessly which is worse than not having it at all. He might as well be holding up a sign that says “Look guys! DIVERSITY!”
And that sucks. And makes his stories lamer. He puts them in like the Token Black Character instead of a character that happens to be blank but that is only one of the many facets of their personality instead of the main focus.
I finished reading a really good example of this last night. The best friend of the main wore a hijab, and when I read that I internally rolled my eyes because I hate having PC content hammered into the narrative. But it wasn’t. It was really well done. The author (Haddix) even touched on racism without preaching. A really great read. At he end of the book I discovered she was Muslim and another friend was Catholic and it was really great because it was a gift near the end of the book to learn more about these characters I liked instead of it being super important when there was an actual plot happening.
It’s called Full-Ride if you’re interested.
A character wearing a hijab isn't 'having PC content hammered into the narrative', it's having a character who happens to wear a hijab.
I know that Jyn.
Less GRIMDARK retellings of stories, especially fairy tales.
They're not bad as long as they actually have originality to them, but for the most part they don't so I will agree with you
I'm specifically talking about the ones that make everything Edgy and Dark because like? They were dark already?
Cinderella's stepsisters mutilating their feet, the Little Mermaid turning to sea foam, Little Red getting eaten alive, the implications of the sleeping spell in Sleeping Beauty, etc. there's so much to explore that's already dark without going full EdGy and gRiMdArK
Ah I see, yes that definitely needs to end.
ur right
also full ride sounds really interesting
Cool.
I have a second Pinterest account I use to collect inspo, aesthetics, faceclaims, etc. for my characters and some stories, and one of my babies characters is a female assassin. Well, not every female assassin is 'sexy' and has knives disguised as lipsticks and seduces people before murdering them. It's annoying and frustrating. {and a bit offensive, as a female}
There's so many other options besides the "sexy hidden assassin". Not every female is beautiful enough to pull that one off.
I have a lady assassin and she's just fucking Chaotic. Not sexy. Just a Disaster.
Also she's underage so just. Hell no.
Right?! I’m actually in an rp about assassins rn, most of the characters are female, and none of them are the “sexy” archetype. Woman assassins have so much potential for things besides being the femme fatale typeof character. There’s a time and place, but it’s rarely a good trope.
There's so many other options besides the "sexy hidden assassin". Not every female is beautiful enough to pull that one off.
And a lot of authors just don't want it. Like, I just don't want a sexy character in my book, especially not hired to kill the queen.
Besides, emotional manipulation is far more fun and sophisticated.
Is it just me or is the 'sexy trope' getting tiring? i want more average looking peeps
I get where you’re coming from. My most recent protagonist I would not be into, looks wise. (Though to be fair to her, Eris says she’s kind of cute.)
Besides, emotional manipulation is far more fun and sophisticated.
And takes more skill. Anyone can show off a body.
Is it just me or is the 'sexy trope' getting tiring? i want more average looking peeps
It's not just you
I'm especially tired of fantasy settings that still have the same standards for what constitutes an attractive person? Like even on earth different cultures have different ideas of what makes a person look beautiful
Because no one understands how to show that a person is considered beautiful in their society's standards, so they settle for making the character beautiful by our society's standards.
THAT.
Something I’d like to add (the conversation reminded me of it) is when people make aliens, they replicate how humans might act. They make their aliens too..human like. Unless there’s a good reason for it, (eg one of my characters was an alien growing up in a human town so she’d still have different features but she’d most likely behave more like a human) I’d like to see less aliens acting like humans, more aliens with their own sort of cultures and behaviours.
Is it just me or is the 'sexy trope' getting tiring? i want more average looking peeps
It's not just you
I'm especially tired of fantasy settings that still have the same standards for what constitutes an attractive person? Like even on earth different cultures have different ideas of what makes a person look beautiful
YES.
Female aliens with boobs :(
Especially if they are in no way mammalian
Female aliens with boobs :(
Especially if they are in no way mammalian
Yes!! Have you nothing else to put there? BE CREATIVE
OR DONT HAVE ANYTHING THERE AT ALL
Yeah, there are so many ways you can easily make differences (and use to identify females) between aliens in terms of genders. Different colouring, sizes, features, etc, etc. One of my species has the male with a more club like tail while the female’s is sharper, and they’re darker, too.
Also when creating aliens..don’t be afraid to get creative with making them! I have a species based off of fungi, a species based off of jellyfish, etc etc.
I do have appreciation though when people make reptilian aliens and don’t give them boobs. I saw an example of that yesterday that someone just made a size difference and gave the males feathering instead, which was nice.
Yes, seeing good distinctions there are like a breath of fresh air
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