OH YOU KNOW WHAT? I have the original book in my tbr list (I have to finish a few library books before my loans run out first tho), and I bet I can pull something from there that would fit. Like maybe a snippet from one of the asides, like you know, Walrus and the Carpenter? There's a bunch of little poems and stuff that would prob work
What if theres a backside like if you drink the water something bad will happen or like something is guarding it?
salvus
safe, sound, unscathed, alive, free from difficulties
?
What if- if you don't need the water, it will have the opposite effect? Like if you just go drink from the river, not with the tea, you start to hallucinate?
OH OH OH, what if your sane and you go drink the water, but then you become mad. but if you're mad and drink the water, you become sane?
okay sorry, I had to a) get a charger, my laptop was about to die and b) comment on another thread.
Yes that's exactly what I was thinking
I think Salvus is a good river name? Salvus, aka the River of Sanity? Or should we change it bc now it also makes you go mad?
River of Opposites?
Hmmm… but that might make ppl think that it does more than just give/take sanity… What about… a play on the Lethe, from greek mythology? It caused amnesia, I think, so that plays into the madness/losing one's head
That would work too!
I'll do like….
meminileth?
Memini means remember in Latin, then leth is shortened from leth, so forget. Not quite/directly sanity, but pretty close, I think. Bc part of insanity is forgetting who you are?
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Hi, I'm back! Ok so yes, that would work! But it could have other titles too….so which title would be most known?
Hmm… I really do like the river of sanity for it's simplicity.
Maybe the river could be a legend or something. Maybe it could be known as the Heart of Wonderland or something like that because it flows through Wonderland?
Ooh, or the vein of wonderland? The heart of wonderland could be the spring from where the river stems? and there are other rivers too, with more properties?
Oh yeah! That would make much more sense, The Meminileth could be the main river and then tiny streams breaking off from it?
I was thinking more along the line of a spring in the center of wonderland, and there are rivers flowing in each direction, but maybe Meminileth is a legend because you can only find it by accident? And no one can remember the way to it?
WAAYYY too cliche, but maybe only the people with the right intentions can find it? Or maybe special people?
I like that better- the right intentions. But what determines what is right?
(I am keeping the no one can remember the way to it tho, bc it's the river that messes/deals with your mind.)
Maybe there's a guardian of the river? Also maybe, you can only go there once, because no one has ever found it twice?
I like that- a guardian. Maybe the guardian gets passed on to someone who goes mad bc of the river (so in the end, my Mad Hatter will be the guardian). I think the only going there once though wouldn't work, bc like… I don't think the Mad Tea Party goers could get enough water in one trip to make all the types of tea they drink
Can't they get water from different rivers like you said?
Yeah, but isn't the Meminileth the river that counteracts the effects of the tea that drives them mad?
I also gotta choose what the other rivers are… maybe 7, because that number is like… completion/wholeness?
Yeah, but isn't the Meminileth the river that counteracts the effects of the tea that drives them mad?
Oh yeah true. IS there a villain in your story? maybe he killed the guardian so he makes the mad tea?
Yes, but the villain actually isn't centered around the tea party lol. I'm just really excited about the tea party.
Alice has become the Queen of Hearts, and is obsessed with the idea of staying young. She uses dark magic to steal the youth from the hearts of "criminals" (but, as a child, her def of 'criminal' is questionable).
I'm also crossing it over with Peter Pan. Peter used to visit Alice when she was a younger child, but stopped visiting, and she doesn't know why. He's why she became obsessed with not growing up. Becoming an adult is terrifying to her. I do know that I eventually want a reunion and a battle between the two of them, bc Peter doesn't agree with her methods. The lines of hero/villain are kind of blurred in my novel though. Alice is the protag, and she sees Time as the villain. Peter sees Alice not quite as a villain, but as misguided/lost (lost girl, see what I did there?). Ultimately, the reader is the one who decides who the villain was.
I already have my last line planned out- "After all that happened, the Queen of Hearts was nothing more and nothing less than a child."
THAT IS SO GOOD!!!!!! Maybe Peter Pan could be like a guardian of the river? MAYBE THE RIVER GETS ITS MAGIC FROM NEVERLAND!?!
Hmmmmmmm…. There is def crossovers between Wonderland and Neverland in my novel. The way the final act (so to speak) gets put into play is a portal opens, but I feel like I can't have him be a guardian bc then I don't get to do the reveal where Peter learns about what Alice has been doing. He has to be removed from the situation for most of it.
I do think I need some more neverland/wonderland crossover magic though, so hit me with ALL your ideas?
Are you incorporating rabbit holes?