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@Becfromthedead group

Yeah, it's not good.
Like you can believe in certain policy, but don't be an ass about it.
I'm kind of in the same boat. Like I'm bi, demi, and questioning gender, and while on the one hand, I could probably go my whole life without anyone finding out, it would suck.
The thing is, I feel like my folks are a mild version because they hate the gays marginally less (we have 2 gay cousins so like you gotta be nice to them).

@berlioz

I live in a LGBTQ Panic Defense state too :/
I don't know how likely it is I'll ever get attacked, and I don't know the even less likelihood that someone will try to use LGBTQ Panic Defense to lessen their punishment, and I don't know the even less likelihood that any sane judge would accept it, but the fact that anyone could use that kind of claim in court against anyone is horrible.

@ElderGod-Icefire

I…don't know if I live in an LGBTQ Panic Defense state (Nebraska?) And I don't know if my parents would cut me off or not. They don't talk about the Gays except to say that it's sinful, and yeah. So idk

@berlioz

Lol we're all in the same boat. Best wait till we're out of the house, and even then when to do it- if at all- is risky and nerve-racking and ugh. Yeah I feel you guys.

@berlioz

It isn't banned nor has legislation been introduced to ban it, so it would seem Nebraska is an LGBTQ Panic Defense state.

@Pickles group

I don't know what my parents think about the gays and I'm scared to find out. They're not as homophobic as one of my friend's parents but that's not really saying much
Ohio is also a Panic Defense state and I Don't Like It

@berlioz

My parents talk negatively of the gays and say they're* sinners, but if they meet gay people irl or see a man with his husband they understand and won't especially go out of their way to comment. But for some reason they both have raging transphobia- like transgender people are practically demons and "omg get them away from the children!"
Like bruh we are the children

@ElderGod-Icefire

I'm planning on coming out once I'm in college and hopefully financially independent and stable. I don't want to be relying on my parents for anything, that way it won't hurt if they cut me off (still hurt emotionally, but like. You get my point)

And oh, isn't that exciting 🙃 definitely not going to college here, then

@ElderGod-Icefire

My parents talk negatively of the gays and say their sinners, but if they meet gay people irl or see a man with his husband they understand and won't especially go out of their way to comment. But for some reason they both have raging transphobia- like transgender people are practically demons and "omg get them away from the children!"
Like bruh we are the children

Oh God same. My parents make faces when they see gay men or lesbian women, but trans people are like. The devil to them. They talk about trans people in these very hushed whispers, like "the man who thinks he's a woman" and all that

@Pickles group

I'm gonna see about coming out in college but I think I'm gonna try to wait until after so that I don't have to panic if they won't pay for my tuition

@Becfromthedead group

Okay, but tbf even my college in Georgia is very accepting, and most colleges have LGBTQ+ organizations. A big plus to some of those is that a lot of them have a "what happens in this club stays in this club" policy of not outing people by accident.
It's very easy to be out in college and not at home.

@ElderGod-Icefire

Right, but if I go to UNO (University of Nebraska Omaha) then I'll be right here in this same city, and I wanna go to college somewhere with mountains. I miss them too much lmao. But mostly I just. Don't want to be in the same state as my parents when I come out, bc I want an excuse to not do it in person. Is that cowardly? Yes. But that's what I want to do

@Pickles group

I'm already out to most people, just not my parents and extended family. And like. Everyone who knows and talks to my parents ever is also gay and/or aware that they don't and can't know

@Becfromthedead group

No, that's completely fair. I think at that point, you mitigate the risk of any physical violence if that's a concern, and if they lose it and were to start yelling and overwhelming you, you have the option to hang up.

@ElderGod-Icefire

Actually I was thinking of coming out through text lmao but yeah. Physical violence is not a concern tho, which I'm grateful for. I just. Don't want to come out in person

@Pickles group

Just realized that most people probably still think I'm aroace or one or the other and almost half just think I'm a lesbian. And four people know I'm biromantic because I had to clarify that I'm not a lesbian
Maybe I'm not as out as I thought I was

@Becfromthedead group

I came out in college. First to my fiancé, and they were already openly bi.
And my roommate was openly bi and very supportive.
And it turns out I accidentally became friends with a horde of bisexuals, oopsie.
I also make a point to talk about the LGBTQ+ community every time I get freedom in a project topic.

@croccin-champagne

I came out late elementary school as Something because homophobia didn't exist in my immediate social circle. shout out to Ryan in my honors math class for being the first homophobe I knowingly met

@Moxie group

I'm out to a few select classes at my college (women's studies, creative writing) and I know a bunch of gay people. Other than that, I'm still pretty closeted.

@berlioz

I just have one question— What does it mean to be a Panic Defence State?

"The LGBTQ+ 'panic' defense strategy is a legal strategy that asks a jury to find that a victim’s sexual orientation or gender identity/expression is to blame for a defendant’s violent reaction, including murder. It is not a free-standing defense to criminal liability, but rather a legal tactic used to bolster other defenses."

Learn about LGBTQ "Panic" Defense