how do you not know what to make of a group of officers opening fire on a woman's home while she slept and only a single officer being charged for anything, and instead of it being the bullets that killed her, it was for the bullets that missed her house and could have hit a neighbor.
i'm sorry if that sounded rude, but breonna's death isn't something i really think we should be debating about. she was murdered. it's that simple. i don't mind talking about it but this kinda implies scrambling for a topic and picking one that shouldn't have any other side, nor should it be debated for fun. that's a real person's death. that's recent.
i'm sorry if that sounded rude, but breonna's death isn't something i really think we should be debating about. she was murdered. it's that simple. i don't mind talking about it but this kinda implies scrambling for a topic and picking one that shouldn't have any other side, nor should it be debated for fun. that's a real person's death. that's recent.
Nah I feel you. But I heard that the whole story wasn't that. Not saying the cops are clean or anything, but that it was the right house for the dude they were looking for, they actually knocked, and then shot when they were shot at. I don't belive it yet, but I was opening it for conversation. You're right that it shouldn't be debated. But I figured this chat was the best place to talk about thus stuff.
i'm sorry if that sounded rude, but breonna's death isn't something i really think we should be debating about. she was murdered. it's that simple. i don't mind talking about it but this kinda implies scrambling for a topic and picking one that shouldn't have any other side, nor should it be debated for fun. that's a real person's death. that's recent.
Nah I feel you. But I heard that the whole story wasn't that. Not saying the cops are clean or anything, but that it was the right house for the dude they were looking for, they actually knocked, and then shot when they were shot at. I don't belive it yet, but I was opening it for conversation. You're right that it shouldn't be debated. But I figured this chat was the best place to talk about thus stuff.
no you're good, i'm sorry for getting a bit bitchy there
this article explains it really well, but basically what happened was breonna lived in an apartment with her current boyfriend, and the apartment had been tied to a drug dealer the police were after, who was her ex. mind you, he was in custody during this time in a different station miles away. her boyfriend got out of bed to the banging at the door, grabbing his legally owned firearm in case of issue(likely because of her ex, or because the banging was aggressive. who knows). when they didn't immediately get an answer, the police used a battering ram, and kenneth walker(her boyfriend) fired. obviously, because when someone breaks down your door, you assume the worst and that you need to protect yourself and your girlfriend.
the police then opened fire into the apartment, killing breonna, who was still in bed, and sending bullets into neighboring apartments. all of which is bad, but the only charges were one officer being charged for three cases of first degree wanton endangerment, meaning he wasn't charged for the murder, or the people in that apartment. only for the people who may have been shot in other apartments. despite the fact that breonna never resisted arrest, didn't even know what was happening or have any ties to her exe's illicit activities.
My dad tried to say it was Ms. Taylor's fault and I just.. stood there. How do you even respond to that. I hope he just doesn't know much about the case yet.
Thanks for explaining that Crocs. Pig should've been charged with voluntary manslaughter AT THE LEAST.
literally the only ones you could even slightly blame who weren't the cops are the drug dealing ex, or her boyfriend. and even there, you can't really blame him, because he fully thought they were being robbed or broken into. it's literally not that hard to knock and shout 'police, please open up and speak with us' like. or even shout police when you break down the door because no one answered quick enough
Righties are saying the tape tells that they knocked. Maybe this stuff is on YT? My internet is limited atm.
And nah you were fine.
in this age of the internet? who knows. but they obviously didn't knock and then wait long enough. who knocks and immediately uses a battering ram?
It's called a no-knock warrant, unfortunately it's legal
actually, not anymore.
and it was claimed that it had been changes to a knock and announce warrant, but only one of the 11 neighbors interviewed claimed to have heard the announcement and said in all the commotion it was likely they had missed it
It's called a no-knock warrant, unfortunately it's legal
They're supposed to be super, super hard to get a judge to sign off on. And then when you do get one, you're supposed to be really careful
actually, not anymore.
Actually I think it depends on the state
actually, not anymore.
Actually I think it depends on the state
no yeah but the state that this happened in is at least in the process of making them illegal, because of the deserved backlash from the shooting
i'm not entirely sure on the specifics but i saw it mentioned somewhere, i just haven't gotten to googling it yet cause i saw it right before bed lmao
Weren't the officers also not in uniform?
Did anyone else see the "patriotic education" thing that Trump's talking about? Because wow, as a history buff I am scared.
I love learning about American history, it's one of my special interests and also one of my favorite classes. I believe that we cannot change the future if we don't learn from our past, and it is incredibly fucking important to learn about the many flaws and atrocities in our past. The idea that """"the left"""" has been """corrupting the education system"""" with """aNtI-aMeRiCaN pRoPaGaNdA-"" is asinine. Our history textbooks majorly glaze over all of the awful shit that we did in favor of deifying the founding fathers and going "but we did a Good! we ended slavery!" and that's incredibly toxic. Glazing over our past is how we wind up with the "make America great again!!" dipshits in the first place :/
Also, "Patriotic Education" genuinely sounds like something out of a dystopian novel…."sir, we caught you reading a forbidden book. you are to be taken away for patriotic education."
Honestly that probably belongs in Rudeness, but idk, it felt fitting since we're already talking about how fucked we currently are.
i cant wait to be taken away by men in suits and brainwashed in a dark room for telling a kid that we once fought a war over oil in a country that wasn't ours and killed their citizens just cause
Can't wait to be strapped down and have my eyes pinned open like I'm in A Clockwork Orange for telling a kid about the Trail of Tears and the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade.
Did anyone else see the "patriotic education" thing that Trump's talking about? Because wow, as a history buff I am scared.
I love learning about American history, it's one of my special interests and also one of my favorite classes. I believe that we cannot change the future if we don't learn from our past, and it is incredibly fucking important to learn about the many flaws and atrocities in our past. The idea that """"the left"""" has been """corrupting the education system"""" with """aNtI-aMeRiCaN pRoPaGaNdA-"" is asinine. Our history textbooks majorly glaze over all of the awful shit that we did in favor of deifying the founding fathers and going "but we did a Good! we ended slavery!" and that's incredibly toxic. Glazing over our past is how we wind up with the "make America great again!!" dipshits in the first place :/
Also, "Patriotic Education" genuinely sounds like something out of a dystopian novel…."sir, we caught you reading a forbidden book. you are to be taken away for patriotic education."
We literally already don't learn about so much shit America has done and he wants to erase that even more??? I'm so fucking scared about what he's going to do to this country
Also I saw something saying he said he wasn't leaving if he didn't get reelected, does anyone know where it was? Because that's spooky as hell
I literally didn't learn about most of the stuff we did until my AP US History course, and even then most of it was my teacher going more in-depth than the textbooks did.
I know it's a meme to do the "lol orange man bad" thing, but my God. He's terrible. I genuinely cannot fathom how braindead someone must need to be to support him.
don't worry about him claiming he wont leave the white house. once election season is over, he'll literally be forcibly removed/arrested if he pulls a three year old and refuses to leave. there's nothing he can do to stay
my big issue is the way he nominated a supreme court justice and no one said anything, but obama couldn't nominate one during his term
Weren't the officers also not in uniform?
Yeah, I'm pretty sure they weren't
Also tho, I'm fairly sure they were detectives, or something like that. I'm pretty sure they weren't patrol officers. And it depends on the department's rule's, and the rules of that teams lieutenant, but they don't technically have to wear uniforms. The lieutenants decide the uniform. But their badge does have to be visible, either aound their neck or on their belt.
my big issue is the way he nominated a supreme court justice and no one said anything, but obama couldn't nominate one during his term
exactly
Obama: I'm gonna nominate a new supreme court justice
McConnell: Nope, it's election year, don't care that you still have nine months left
Trump, like, 2 months before election day: I'm gonna nominate a new supreme court justice
McConnell: ok
it's called ~ racism ~ and a preference for republican politicians
my big issue is the way he nominated a supreme court justice and no one said anything, but obama couldn't nominate one during his term
exactly
Obama: I'm gonna nominate a new supreme court justice
McConnell: Nope, it's election year, don't care that you still have nine months leftTrump, like, 2 months before election day: I'm gonna nominate a new supreme court justice
McConnell: ok
Fuck McConnell
Also I hate the way Trump was like Ah! A woman died. Here is another one. Another woman. Is this good? Is another woman good? They're all the same, right?
Fuck McConnell
Fuck McConnell
Not in that way, we don't want more of them running around
DAMNIT ASH THAT IS NO T WHAT I WAS TRYING TO SUGGEST
On slavery and whatnot
A lot of people glaze over what happened in Canada as well, and it was pretty bad. There are some people that don’t know what The Indian Act was, and I really only learned about it in depth last year. A lot of the stuff that people did to indigenous peoples in Canada was pretty bad (like taking them away from their homes, to a school, saying they couldn’t speak their language and whatnot.)
You could quite literally spend an entire unit on just that stuff and you wouldn’t even get to know the extent of what was done, and how it still affects people today. Like there are some people living on reserves who don’t even have clean water. They have to boil water.
There was a dude elected in the Conservative party of Canada or something earlier who said “take Canada back” (sound familiar?) and I’m like…who are you taking it back from? If anything, that statement is pretty ironic.
And most of, if not all of the indigenous people don’t blame people today for what happened. They just want us to know what happened, it was bad, it still affects them today and they need us to recognize it happened.
I won’t lie when I say Canada’s a good place, but it does have its problems and people have done pretty bad stuff in the past.
On Trump, if he has to be forcibly removed that’ll be one for the history books
And not in a good way, either
2020 is gonna be its own book
On Trump again, I found out some republicans who were kind of silent have started to say “we need to get Trump out” (not exactly, but you get the drift hopefully). Not all of them have said it publicly
There were some that supported him at first, now they don’t anymore. So while the supporters who still are supporters give me major brainrot, that’s definitely nice to hear
Also iirc RBG said she didn’t want to be replaced until Trump was out of office, so…
And the Trump nomination is not good either. Like that’s gonna be screwing over millions of Americans for years to come if she does get up there. And I’m not saying it’s just her, it’s like the Supreme Court as a whole is pretty bad right now.