Oh it's only getting started. I haven't come in yet 'cause I'm busy.

Ok so we’re being nice so we can make up for being dicks later

I don't think that's what he's saying. Debate isn't about being a dick or whatever, it's about arguing your side. No one is being nice to necessarily to make up for "being a dick" later. If that's what this chat will be, I wouldn't dare call it debate.

I believe what he was saying is that the debate is not over yet and that he hasn't replied yet due to the fact that he is busy.

I don't think that's what he's saying. Debate isn't about being a dick or whatever, it's about arguing your side. No one is being nice to necessarily to make up for "being a dick" later. If that's what this chat will be, I wouldn't dare call it debate.

I believe what he was saying is that the debate is not over yet and that he hasn't replied yet due to the fact that he is busy.

I was joking but ok

Whoop. My bad. I couldn't tell. Sorry..

Whoop. My bad. I couldn't tell. Sorry..

Yeah that’s the problem with writing stuff down, you can’t tell

I honestly think abortion is not the greatest thing but I believe that it is the women’s own choice weather to get rid of the baby or not

Why should she be allowed to kill her baby?

Yeah. Like, it's not good, but it's also not the government's choice.

Exactly I don’t think the government is pregnant, so they don’t get a choice

But if it is wrong in a way that can be explained in the moral culture of today, it should be outlawed.

If they can't afford it or don't want it it's better than letting them grow up terribly

Better to be killed than live and maybe have a lame life?

The government gets to outlaw murder

Because maybe they were r*ped and don’t want a baby that would remind them of that, also I’m not a big fan of abortion myself, but I believe it is the persons choice

A horrible thing, truly, but many mothers actually prefer to keep the child in this case.

I personally am 100% for abortion. No matter the situation, in my opinion, you should be able to get an abortion.

Why?

The rights were written in 1776.

1776.

They're outdated.

Well, they were written in that document then. But human rights do not change. And that document referenced Rights that were from the beginning of the world.

The rights were written in 1776.

1776.

They're outdated.

so since our Constitution was written in 1789, the bill of rites is outdated? You are very very misguided and dare I say, shouldn’t be allowed to vote if you believe our founding documents are outdated. these nonsensical beliefs are why we have Trump; why we have a would-be authoritarian dictator in the White House

These nonsensical “History doesn’t matter“ beliefs are dangerous. They are the reason we have someone who if allowed, would be a menace to freedom, and would silence all dissent

I hope yall realize that the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence are two separate documents 13 years apart

But you can't deny that if we did everything the way we used to, it would be chaos.

Well, yeah. But that's why there are amendments in the Constitution.

The second amendment props up the first amendment

The second amendment props up the first amendment

The second and the first have only one thing in common and that’s the right for American citizens

how the fuck do guns relate to my right to talk shit on our government?

I just think, like, say abortion is 100% illegal. What's the point? Your punishment for having unprotected sex is a child you are forced to raise for 18 years.

Adoption exists, Mir. You don't have to raise the child.

Once again or you could just not have sex?? There are other things you can do.

…people wouldn’t have to die because of some couple’s stupid actions?

The only reason I’m for abortion is because it’s such a giant women’s rights movement. I myself would never get an abortion unless I needed to (haha getting pregnant in the first place is slim), but I feel every woman should have that to her/their disposal in case something bad happens (like rape or incest). And this also includes birth control, which is somehow also in the debate when it shouldn’t be.

But I also stand by: No uterus no opinion. I haven’t talked with abortion to any of my male friends/bf because I literally don’t care for their opinion.

Once again or you could just not have sex?? There are other things you can do.

While that is a plausible option. R*pe happens.

if you wanna do the baby making, don't get mad when you get the baby

yeah rape happens like,,,

it’s most of the abortions that happen, is from rape victims…

yeah rape happens like,,,

it’s most of the abortions that happen, is from rape victims…

Nope