forum Things You Want LESS Of In Books
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@evastardust groupRRAAAARRL

JKR has some very bad takes, but her female characters are excellent. Even in just the major characters, you've got Hermione, Ginny, and Luna who are all strong in different ways, not to mention a good array of female side characters (Tonks, Mrs. Weasley, the Quidditch girls) and villains (Bellatrix, Umbridge, Narcissa).

@Althalosian-is-the-father book

I think one thing you could do to establish strength is to have people rely on her. Back to Hermione, the boys always knew they could rely on her. That showed that they were fully aware of her strength.

@ninja_violinist

Something I've found really useful in making characters "strong" but in different ways is figuring out which of the Clifton Strengths they have - it's kind of like the MBTI personality test, except it evaluates what kinds of thigns you're inclined to be good at, if that makes sense. There are 34 options and you pick the top 5 (for actual irl personality testing there's a whole question process that you pay for, but the type descriptions are free).
(and then it's easier to put my characters into situations that would challenge that specific part of their personality)

@evastardust groupRRAAAARRL

I think one thing you could do to establish strength is to have people rely on her. Back to Hermione, the boys always knew they could rely on her. That showed that they were fully aware of her strength.

Yeah, as much fun as the unexpectedly strong character is, a character whose strength is known is also good. It also makes the scenes where Hermione is panicked, injured, or otherwise unable to help them more impactful, like when she panics in the Devil's Snare or is injured in the Department of Mysteries.

@Kinarymo

Also any suggestions what a young girl might be other than a witch?? i ran out of options that could fit a child xd

@Kinarymo

I work with characters under the age of 14, and i feel like i cant just give them whatever job or role, esp since they are a girl.

Im not really good at making girls, so i really do not know what role to give her, especially since she's 12 and i really dont want to go down the angry tomboy path again. Teens are easier to deal with, but 12 yr olds?? Nope @ - @

@Pickles group

I don't mind it at the chapter if it's done well, but most of the time, the characters have the exact same voice and I forget who's POV I'm on. And switches in the middle of the chapter is really annoying

@ElderGod-Icefire

I actually really love POV switches so long as they are done well! I mean…i know a lot of examples where it wasn't done well, but I've read a lot of good ones, too. So…idk. i enjoy them, but i know other people hate them

@evastardust groupRRAAAARRL

I don't mind it at the chapter if it's done well, but most of the time, the characters have the exact same voice and I forget who's POV I'm on. And switches in the middle of the chapter is really annoying

I like 3rd person POV switches, but not 1st person ones.

@SupernaturalSyGuyIsTIred group

Characters that do nothing but wine throughout the entire story….

I think you meant to say whine. I myself wouldn't mind a character that continuously wined.

Lol Yeah, that's what I meant. My phone removed a letter for some strange reason!

@vidari-is-tired-in-advance group

Characters that do nothing but wine throughout the entire story….

I think you meant to say whine. I myself wouldn't mind a character that continuously wined.

Lol Yeah, that's what I meant. My phone removed a letter for some strange reason!

I mean, I have a character who uses constant underage drinking and partying as a coping mechanism to deal with their feelings of inadequacy and failure??? Does that count?

@Starfast group

I like 3rd person POV switches, but not 1st person ones.

I can honestly get behind either if they're done well, and I've seen both done really well and really poorly. I've noticed that 3rd person books with multiple POVs tend to be more popular though.

Also, on the subject of multiple POVs I feel like some books just don't really need more than one POV. Wonder by RJ Palacio should have been one POV. Carry On by Rainbow Rowell could have had less as well (literally if you took out every chapter from Agatha's POV the story would barely change. Her chapters were useless).

@vidari-is-tired-in-advance group

I like 3rd person POV switches, but not 1st person ones.

I can honestly get behind either if they're done well, and I've seen both done really well and really poorly. I've noticed that 3rd person books with multiple POVs tend to be more popular though.

Also, on the subject of multiple POVs I feel like some books just don't really need more than one POV. Wonder by RJ Palacio should have been one POV. Carry On by Rainbow Rowell could have had less as well (literally if you took out every chapter from Agatha's POV the story would barely change. Her chapters were useless).

I like POV switches when they’re used to explore different subplots or when the characters are separated in some way. But when it switches between characters in the same place focusing on the same events, the author had to do an amazing job giving the characters distinct voices for me to remain interested.