forum Things You Want LESS Of In Books
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@hollow-boned

the only important men in my wlw story so far are
-the one(1) male friend of the group and he's a big dumbass and he's indian (it's not a thing in my world but just as a reference) w big eyes and curly hair and he's more submissive to his Cool Distinguished Jeweler girlfriend
-the sociopathic prince who is in an arranged betrothal to one of my main girls, and he's kinda stereotipically hot ig but not in a muscly way, more in a tall pale and sharp way. he dies
-the middle-aged father of my other girl who has to be broken out of prison by my girls
-that's it

@evastardust groupRRAAAARRL

My boys are:
Twyllo-

  • Stoic, calm, collected General Oliver Warren.
  • Compassionate disaster bisexual Jon Revis
  • Ansel Beauregard, the 12 year old streetsweeper
  • Samuel Shafton, the awkward, easily flustered nerd
  • Nich Fox, the charismatic aromantic sarcastic con artist
  • Darius Scott, the arrogant but good deep down rich boy
  • Marcus Revis, Jon's uncle who keeps the rebels in line
  • James Cole, one of the main villain's lackeys

Ehre:

  • Huxley Descant, the quiet and apathetic kind-of pirate
  • Carl Loder, who has the brains of Costanza and the ego of Vizzini
  • Lysander Dumont, an overeager guard-in-training who wants to impress his mentor
  • Asher Roan, the regal and stoic friend of the MC
  • Rowan [Still needs a surname], a brutal and cutthroat guard who doesn't hesitate to beat the much younger Lysander in a fight

Creston:

  • Jayson Brecker, whose sister runs a crime family he wants no part in. Shy and nervous.
  • andrew (Our Supreme Lord and Overseer) Robertson, a tired and anxious guy who has 2 jobs but needs 1 good night of sleep
  • Stephen Erikson, who tries his best to see charismatic and suave, but is not as confident as he seems

Fae:

  • Oleander, the main villain and a manipulative, dramatic prick
  • Lucas of Galantaea Hill, a bastard orphan who wants to know his past and protect his loved ones
  • King Iam of the Spring Court, a sweet and enthusiastic young king who is inexperienced politically but he just wants to help everyone, let him be happy
  • Cedar, who acts like he doesn't gaf but he gives many
  • King Aspen of the Autumn Court, who just wants to keep the memory of his favorite mortal alive by protecting her son

Spite and Aesthetic:

  • Dima Callaghan, a logical and deadpan wannabe inventor who is done with Lyra's everyone's shit

Realistic Fiction:

  • Frankie Corr, who can't just keep his mouth shut and let someone else get the last word in
  • Claudio Jones, who lacks common sense but has some empathy
  • Joe Prince, who needs a nap and some nice tea so he can calm tf down
  • Barry Woolsworth, who is enthusiastic and inexperienced wannabe private eye
  • Jackson Gavel, an actual private eye/Shakespearean actor who is the mom friend and the eldest sibling friend at the same time, has like 0 self preservation instinct, generally pretty chill
  • Theodore Lowe, a shy and quiet (until you get to know him) stage manager who 100% believes in cyptids
  • Maxwell Darby, an awkward and nervous assistant to Roge Sr.
  • Charles Roge Sr., a conniving and manipulative scumbag
  • Charlie Roge, Jr., a guy who just wants to be happy but can't seem to get out from under his father's thumb
  • Henry Harrison, a summertime baseball playing and very enthusiastic guy. Generally nice, but God help you if you manage to piss him off
  • Victor Grant, an awkward but very intelligent college student who just wants to be able to study chemistry in peace. Had shitty parents, just let him be happy please.

@Starfast group

Oh, are we just listing off all our male characters? I have some of those.

Project 1:

  • Crispin: I like to compare him to a chihuahua because he's tiny and wants to fight everyone. Former pirate who needs to chill out.
  • Kit: Crown prince of his kingdom. He's really oblivious which tends to land him in trouble a lot. Doesn't know how to handle an insult.
  • Caleb: A chimney sweep who would rather be doing anything but sweeping chimneys. Daydreams a lot to help him cope with the terrible hand of cards he's been dealt.
  • Gerard: A paranoid healer with a tragic backstory that he refuses to speak about, but simultaneously can't stop talking about.
  • Matthew: Kit's father. Weirdly reclusive and antisocial. Kind of known for being a really private individual, which sometimes rubs people the wrong way, but does a good job at running the kingdom.

Project 2:

  • Dallas: A high school senior who just wants to live a normal, peaceful life but keeps getting dragged into all these weird situations.
  • Andor: Aspiring comic book artist who makes questionable decisions on a daily basis. Doesn't think before he does anyone. An absolute mess.
  • Ara: A med student with a tendency to be really condescending and sarcastic. Kind of a jerk, despite his heart usually being in the right place. Drinks way too much coffee.

Project 3:

  • Milo: Just wants everyone to like him despite the fact that he's known to be manipulative and untrustworthy. Still is narcissistic enough to think that people like him anyways.
  • Garzlan: A carpenter who's just trying his best. Really passive Mom Friend who tends to trust way to easily (So the fact that he's friends with Milo is… not that great).
    (I have some other male character from this project, but they're not really fleshed out yet).

(I have a 4th project, but it's super under construction. There's 4 male characters from that one).

@Wry_Wyvern

I have a lot of male and female characters (I think about an equal number of each, plus a nonbinary person) and they're basically the only aspect of my story that I've put any effort into thus far.

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Are we talking about our boys?

i suppose so

@Starfast group

^ Yeah

From what I know of them via the incorrect quotes chat, Kit, Ara, and Andor are my favorites!

It makes me really happy to hear that someone else (other than me) likes Ara. I feel people tend to not like him as much, but he's one of my favourite characters to write about.

@evastardust groupRRAAAARRL

^ Yeah

From what I know of them via the incorrect quotes chat, Kit, Ara, and Andor are my favorites!

It makes me really happy to hear that someone else (other than me) likes Ara. I feel people tend to not like him as much, but he's one of my favourite characters to write about.

The sarcastic, takes-no-shit character is one of my favorite tropes! Dima is one of those as well, and I love writing about him and others who fall under that umbrella!

@Pickles group

Stop pretending to use Bible verses at the beginning of chapters. Seriously. It's rude. That's not what that verse says. That's not even a book in the Bible. Just no. Absolutely not. And stop using only partial verses without specifying that it's not the whole verse.
Rant about a book I'm reading, not an attack on anyone on here. But this is a trend that needs to die. Like, cool if you want to, but don't make stuff up, and don't blatantly disregard context for the sake of it matching your chapter. That bugs me even more than using bad language simply for the heck of it.

@evastardust groupRRAAAARRL

I don't even read the quotes at the beginning of chapters, but it's annoying. Especially when it alternates between Bible quotes, Fake Deep stuff, and cheesy pop songs.

@Dayzea group

I hate it when characters are made attractive and it is only used as a plot device to make people fall in love with them. If you're intentionally trying to make people warm up to them for something significant in the plot then it's acceptable, because people tend to gravitate towards liking attractive people, but just making someone hot because "they're a love interest" is not only shallow, but lazy. In one of my stories, the protagonist's older brother is shockingly attractive to help cover the fact he's actually one of the least stable and least moral characters in the group, which is knowledge the protagonist only really attains and accepts much later in the book.

Plus, I agree with all the previous points made—"attractive" has so many meanings. The character I just mentioned is fairly lean and tall, and nowhere near built. He also has a lot of freckles and birthmarks. I want more female characters described as beautiful because of the way her hair frizzes, and her round cheeks blush when she smiles, the birthmarks on her face, her stout physique. Just…human things!

@evastardust groupRRAAAARRL

I have a lot of characters and I consider a majority of them to be fairly attractive, even though they have all pretty different body types, skin tones, hair and eye colors, etc.

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CHARACTER ASSASSINATION FOR THE SAKE OF DRAMA

@hollow-boned

lines that sound like they might be iconic on paper but are really cringy when actually said out loud
("sorry cheryl bombshell, my specialty is ice" like who the fuck wrote that godforsaken show)

@evastardust groupRRAAAARRL

lines that sound like they might be iconic on paper but are really cringy when actually said out loud
("sorry cheryl bombshell, my specialty is ice" like who the fuck wrote that godforsaken show)

"I'm weird. I'm a weirdo. I don't 'fit in'. You ever see me without this stupid hat? That's weird."
Also it erased a canonically aroace character's identity so yep it can burn

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Cough Daenarys Targaryen Cough

Imm die mad about this