forum Things You Want LESS Of In Books

Started January 21, 2019 by @evastardust groupRRAAAARRL

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Even better what if the lifelong friend was the bad boy?

did you mean: the hunger games

Even better what if the lifelong friend was the bad boy?

did you mean: the hunger games

no because Gale can suck fadoodle nuts.

Even better what if the lifelong friend was the bad boy?

did you mean: the hunger games

no because Gale can suck fadoodle nuts.

fair

Even better what if the lifelong friend was the bad boy?

did you mean: the hunger games

no because Gale can suck fadoodle nuts.

TRUTH!!!!!!!

Even better what if the lifelong friend was the bad boy?

Yes!
That'd be a good one!!

Or she does leave to be with the new guy because he is genuinely a nice person.

Yes yes yes!

I don't really like the girl falls in love with the nice guy trope either, to be honest. Here's why:

• Plays into the idea that if a guy is nice to you, you automatically have to fall in love with him
• Usually, the "nice guy" is pretty controlling and kind of manipulative
  - Thinks he knows what's best for the girl
• He's very entitled

But:

• the bad boy's a bastard abuser
• I really fucking hate insta-love
• and she shouldn't throw away her life like that

So neither are good choices.

Well then the nice guy is a “nice guy” not an actual nice guy.
Nice people, good people, kind people, they gain people’s affection. It’s a real thing. So it’s pretty honest to have a girl fall for a kind person. Who wouldn’t?
The other things (Instalove etc.) are wrong in themselves, so they don’t detract from actual nice guy relationship.

Idk if this is just me, but I can almost always tell who endgame will be from the moment the love triangle is introduced.
I knew in THG (but I don't personally consider it to be a love triangle) and I honestly can usually tell endgame ships from pretty early on in a book or series.

If you can do that they’re not written well.

Exactly! So few love triangles are actually love triangles are actually written well!!

You know why. So true.

I’m writing a book where the main character is given a prophecy by a spirit, and it makes her seem like some sort of Chosen One but she’s not supposed to be, she’s actually just the most convenient person to fulfill the prophecy. She not even the perfect candidate as she is literally a child. How would I communicate that to the reader that she’s not perfect for the prophecy?

You know why. So true.

Cowardice

I’m writing a book where the main character is given a prophecy by a spirit, and it makes her seem like some sort of Chosen One but she’s not supposed to be, she’s actually just the most convenient person to fulfill the prophecy. She not even the perfect candidate as she is literally a child. How would I communicate that to the reader that she’s not perfect for the prophecy?

Have her not fulfill it.

I can’t really do that. If she doesn’t fulfill it, literally everyone and every thing in that entire world will die. Actually though, maybe she only fulfills it with a little divine intervention… and of course help from some adults who know what the frick they’re doing.

I suppose.
Not to be rude or anything but it has the potential of being a little…cliche.

Yes, I realized that a long time ago, but I love these characters too much to give up on them.

You know why. So true.

Cowardice

I was thinking verbal laziness but that too I guess.

Yes, I realized that a long time ago, but I love these characters too much to give up on them.

Feels. I have a prophecy child.

I’m writing a book where the main character is given a prophecy by a spirit, and it makes her seem like some sort of Chosen One but she’s not supposed to be, she’s actually just the most convenient person to fulfill the prophecy. She not even the perfect candidate as she is literally a child. How would I communicate that to the reader that she’s not perfect for the prophecy?

Maybe have her be super excited to be chosen and actually get to do something interesting, and then realize it's gonna be harder than she thought? Or maybe have her overhear something about how she was just convenient? Gosh, that's also kinda cliche. Idk

Maybe the prophecy was given to her, but it wasn’t about her? Maybe about someone else she’s close to? Idk… if there has to be a prophecy… It’s very hard to tone down the prophecy cliche.

The prophecy is actually about her and her friend, that’s one reason why she is the most convenient. A lot of the prophecy is actually just about things that will happen around her, not just to her and her friend. The prophecy is necessary because otherwise she won’t know to go on the journey.

But isn’t that how the prophecy usually works?

Mostly prophecies predict things that will happen to the person it is being given to, not things that don’t actually effect them.

Idk dude….sounds kinda like it could be a major plot hole.

I've recently discovered that I do not like it when authors shove political issues of modern day life into fiction/fantasy/etc. and make it bluntly obvious about it. Like damn I get it you are super super against this but it has nothing to do with the original story or the plot.

I hate that in everything. I wanted to read a book/watch a movie/look at internet memes without having your opinions shoved down my throat, thank you. Even when I agree with them it's really annoying

_{Don’t worry my precious book characters I won’t let them hurt you}