i think it is something that people choose and they can not if they wanted to
NO IT MOST CERTAINLY IS NOT
Can you choose to be into the opposite gender? Like, let's say you're a guy (bc your name is Neal. Typically male name) Can you walk around and not notice cute girls? Like you see them and you get crushes on them and you can't really help it right?
Yeah it's exactly the same way for everyone. No matter if they're gay or straight.
This is not a choice. No one in the community would choose to be gay and face hazing and bullying and harassment and death threats and mental illness and they would stop being gay if it meant they didn't want to kill themselves.
So again. You can have your opinion. But you cannot come here and give us this homophobic crap. I do not need it. I do not want it. No one does.
I am not homophobic and i dont think its a mental illness
people like the opposite gender because that's how they were made and anything is according to the bible is an abomination
WE HAVE HEARD YOUR OPINION. YOUR OPINION IS WRONG. STOP TALKING ABOUT YOUR OPINION.
who are you to tell me that my opinion is wrong
Sorry, what i meant was to say HOMOPHOBIC IDIOT. HOW THE HELL COULD YOU THINK THAT PEOPLE WOULD CHOOSE TO BE GAY.
why are you being mean about this
WE HAVE HEARD YOUR OPINION. YOUR OPINION IS WRONG. STOP TALKING ABOUT YOUR OPINION.
who are you to tell me that my opinion is wrong
it has no basis in science or theology.
Did Christ hate people because of their disabilities? There were people who couldn't walk or were blind who were shunned by society. Did He hate them? No. Because His doctrine is to love everyone. Even if you can't understand that this isn't a choice, at least follow the commandments of God and love people.
And if you go and look up scientific studies, same sex attraction isn't fully understood. But surprise! Neither is opposite sex attraction! By your logic, you're choosing to be straight. But you aren't choosing it. Because then you could change your mind and be gay for a day and learn how much it absolutely sucks to not be able to love who you want to love.
Anyways
you can believe that being gay is a choice and that God didn't make people this way
But God doesn't make mistakes. I'm supposed to be this way. And I can't control it. I'm this way because He wants me to be this way.
You know what else is illegal in the bible? Wearing two different fabrics. I bet people don't hate you for wearing jeans and a cotton t-shirt on the same day.
god didn't say that you couldnt that was the culture back then
WE HAVE HEARD YOUR OPINION. YOUR OPINION IS WRONG. STOP TALKING ABOUT YOUR OPINION.
who are you to tell me that my opinion is wrong
it has no basis in science or theology.
Did Christ hate people because of their disabilities? There were people who couldn't walk or were blind who were shunned by society. Did He hate them? No. Because His doctrine is to love everyone. Even if you can't understand that this isn't a choice, at least follow the commandments of God and love people.
And if you go and look up scientific studies, same sex attraction isn't fully understood. But surprise! Neither is opposite sex attraction! By your logic, you're choosing to be straight. But you aren't choosing it. Because then you could change your mind and be gay for a day and learn how much it absolutely sucks to not be able to love who you want to love.
Anyways
you can believe that being gay is a choice and that God didn't make people this way
But God doesn't make mistakes. I'm supposed to be this way. And I can't control it. I'm this way because He wants me to be this way.
i dont think god hates any of us he loves all his children and has no favorites or biased way
you chose to live in your sin and that is your choice
I am not homophobic and i dont think its a mental illness
people like the opposite gender because that's how they were made and anything is according to the bible is an abomination
People like the same or more than one gender because that's how they were made.
And I don't think "anything is according to the bible is an abomination" is what you meant if you're making an argument based in Christianity.
Fun fact the "man shall not lie with man" verse that some christians use against homosexuality was mistranslated from the original greek, it's actually "man shall not lie with boy" which is forbidding pedophilia not homosexuality.
Also I didn't say that being gay is a mental illness. People in the LGBTQ+ community just have a lot of mental illnesses because we're treated like crap by society and told that we're making a choice by people who are uneducated, when really we don't get a say in any of it.
would it be better if i just left
WE HAVE HEARD YOUR OPINION. YOUR OPINION IS WRONG. STOP TALKING ABOUT YOUR OPINION.
who are you to tell me that my opinion is wrong
it has no basis in science or theology.
Did Christ hate people because of their disabilities? There were people who couldn't walk or were blind who were shunned by society. Did He hate them? No. Because His doctrine is to love everyone. Even if you can't understand that this isn't a choice, at least follow the commandments of God and love people.
And if you go and look up scientific studies, same sex attraction isn't fully understood. But surprise! Neither is opposite sex attraction! By your logic, you're choosing to be straight. But you aren't choosing it. Because then you could change your mind and be gay for a day and learn how much it absolutely sucks to not be able to love who you want to love.
Anyways
you can believe that being gay is a choice and that God didn't make people this way
But God doesn't make mistakes. I'm supposed to be this way. And I can't control it. I'm this way because He wants me to be this way.
i dont think god hates any of us he loves all his children and has no favorites or biased way
If God loves us all equally why can't you?
you chose to live in your sin and that is your choice
I have never kissed a girl. Simply being attracted to them is not a sin. Stop telling me it is. You're being rude and insensitive. Please leave.
Don't leave Neal, this is my fault, I asked you to air your opinion and you shouldn't get attacked for doing so.
If God loves us all equally why can't you?
I didnt say I hated you
You've made it very clear that you don't like, love, or even support us.
If God loves us all equally why can't you?
I didnt say I hated you
Then why did you call them a sin
ESPECIALLY abomination?
If God loves us all equally why can't you?
I didnt say I hated you
I'm not exactly feeling the love when you come and tell me that I'm making a choice to be this way when I cannot control it and I have literally spent nights praying and crying to God asking him to kill me so I don't have to deal with this.
So you can stay, but you need to stop telling me that this is my choice and I'm sinning just by existing because I'm not.
I dont hate you guys and neither does god but no i dont exactly support you life decisions
Guys we aren't really showing love to him either, yelling at him for having an opinion? What reason does that give him to see God or good in us?
I dont hate you guys and neither does god but no i dont exactly support you life decisions
THEY DIDN'T CHOSE TO BE GAY
THEY DIDN'T CHOSE TO BE ACE
THEY DIDN'T CHOSE TO BE HOMOPHOBIC
ITS NOT THEY'RE FAULT THEY WERE LIKE THAT
ALSO
ITS NOT A ABOMINATION
The bible says its wrong to be who you are
well its wrong
Why?
Because God made these people the way they are.
So
STOP SHIFTING THE BLAME
IF YOU WANT TO BLAME THEM FOR BEING WHO THEY ARE
THEN GO BLAME GOD
Fun fact: In the original Greek, it was "Man shall not lay with boy"
Boy
That passage is about pedophilia
No don't blame God, now you're shifting the blame.
Guys we aren't really showing love to him either, yelling at him for having an opinion? What reason does that give him to see God or good in us?
I'm not yelling at him for having an opinion. He is welcome to believe what he believes. But when I ask him several times to stop saying it's a decision when it's not, then I'm less inclined to be polite.
I do not need people to come and tell me that I'm sinning by wanting to date both guys and girls and that I can just choose not to be like this. Wow! Really?? I never thought of that?? Why didn't that work the first thousand times I've tried that?? Wow look I'm cured!
Oh wait no I'm not. Because this isn't some sickness to be cured and this isn't a choice.
I am depressed and I do not need negativity towards my identity.
No don't blame God, now you're shifting the blame.
No I'm not
its not anyones fault that they are that way.
God was proud to make them that way
and if people don't accept that
then
Well
Go talk to God
Yes but I asked him to state his opinion and the only reason he continued was because no one else stopped, he was defending himself.
Yes but I asked him to state his opinion and the only reason he continued was because no one else stopped, he was defending himself.
Aren't we also allowed to state our opinions?
