forum The LGBTQ+ Community Chat :) Part 2!
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@ElderGodSwimwithGamers group

Aha, I just got a five minute add going on about how teachers should be required to out students and affirm 'biological realities'
And I want to strangle these people so much
Fuck you 'Alliance Defending Freedom'

@Cloudy_is_trying_her_best

dskavn how about freedom of privacy?? You want a biological reality bitch??? How about we test the biological reality of how easily human fingers can break???

also Zane just like. Fuck with him in the small ways. Not too big bc you might get in trouble if you live with your parents but annoy the hell out of him

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Elliot Page is a fucking king and his chosen pronouns are wonderful.

@berlioz

Mm, I'm gonna try and educate him but does he ever shut up about his games and listen to me? No-

(also while I'm here, yes Elliot Page)

Maybe if he's the Fax and Logik(tm) type start with
"Even if sex and gender were the same thing, there would be more than two genders, since it's been recognized by medicine that there are more than two sexes. Instead of a binary, sex is more accurately described as a 'bimodal distribution' or in other words, it's a spectrum with a heavy preference towards two ends" (basically make him aware of intersex people) then show him this graph from Scientific American:

If he protests, saying intersex people are such a small percent of the population, remind him that if there's even one outlier to a binary model, the whole system is broken. Then maybe tell him so much as 1 in 100 people have minor, unnoticeable intersex disorders (source).
Then you could continue with something like "sex and gender are separately defined by psychologist, physicians, and sociologists, with sex being the biological makeup of the body (including hormones, the reproductive system, and secondary sex characteristics) while gender is socially constructed by individual societies. There is no biological, sex-related reason men 'can't wear dresses'. That's just a gender role men are expected not to step into in America. But in old Scotland and most Arab countries kilts and dresses are considered manly. This shows how culture forms gender roles (and the concept of gender), and many cultures have recognized third gender, transgender, and two spirited people- it hasn't always been man and woman. It's never been just man and woman. There are a lot of theories why someone ends up identifying as a gender they weren't assigned as at birth or raised to be, but the overall consensus is that it's just who they are, just like your gender is a part of your identity, transgender or non binary identities are just as real, innate, and important. Not everyone fits into the binary system because it's a broken system that isn't based on anything scientific. If anything, science affirms the validity or trans people and their identities (further reading)."

@Musical_Queen

So, there are these two trans kids that I kind of talk to and I'm not 100% sure of their pronouns or which name is their deadname and I've known them for like 3 years but not well enough that I feel really awkward to ask them so when I mention something they do to a friend, is it okay to use "they/them" pronouns?

@Kamea public

I say yes. It's definitely okay to use they/them when unsure of someone's pronouns (unless they specifically request you don't). It's safer to do that then accidentally guess/say the wrong pronouns and risk accidentally hurting them and/or sending them into a downwards spiral of gender dysphoria.

@Musical_Queen

I say yes. It's definitely okay to use they/them when unsure of someone's pronouns (unless they specifically request you don't). It's safer to do that then accidentally guess/say the wrong pronouns and risk accidentally hurting them and/or sending them into a downwards spiral of gender dysphoria.

Okay, thank you

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alright y'all i'm back for real this time
i knew that deleting my acc wasn't a good idea lmao
love y'all

@Milani eco

this girl at my school has been saying that she got gender reassignment surgery at 10, and when i called her out for it, she pretty much threatened to kill me in a message on instagram. im scared

@Milani eco

yeh she said 'i dont care if the school reports me, i will fucking kill you'
it might not be a full-on one, but i just forwarded the email to the school ahha

@ElderGodSwimwithGamers group

Ahhhhhhh sneaking on during school to tell y'all my mom went on a rant about how there are only two genders because I opened the car door for my brother, so there's a 80% chance she's going to complain to my dad and he'll out me

But I at least got to say "tradition is just peer pressure from the dead" and my brother agreed with me
But I'm also 80% sure I'm fucked

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"tradition is just peer pressure from the rest"

okay i love this

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Excuse my language but what the fresh fuck is wrong with her that opening a car door for someone else is an even remotely gendered thing?

lmao it can be a sign of respect for men to open car doors for women, but as a feminist i am On the Fence

@ElderGodSwimwithGamers group

I'll try to

And my entire family says it's manners to wait for the man to open the door for a woman, to the point to where they'll make you wait several minutes and you get in trouble if you just do it yourself

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I'll try to

And my entire family says it's manners to wait for the man to open the door for a woman, to the point to where they'll make you wait several minutes and you get in trouble if you just do it yourself

no offense, but your family sounds painfully old fashioned
my dad's like that too tho