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Started March 14, 2019 by Deleted user

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And that's the fuckin tea

hey, uh
to the people more informed than i am, what's going on with the whole voting fraud thing?
my mother (i know, not a very trustable source) was telling me the other day about how overnight in both Washington and Michigan, Biden suddenly received a 100,000+ vote spike all from mail-in ballots, while Trump didn't receive a single one, which would be "statistically impossible".
She also said that Republican onlookers were not allowed to view the voting process for a while as those same ballots were counted, even being literally forced out of buildings with no explanation

Is fraud actually going on here, is my mother only telling one side of the story, is this another conspiracy theory, what's the true situation? I don't think I believe her cause i'm hearing a different story every time but i want this cleared up so i'm no longer struggling to make sense of it

Honestly, we can't really know if there's fraud or not. I'd personally say no, there isn't, but right now we don't know for sure. I know there were some spikes that could be considered sus I guess.
Most to all of the fraud accusations are coming from Trump himself, since it's obviously impossible he's not winning by a landslide.

(NOTE: This is what I've understood from watching Trump speak yesterday, the news, and doing some research of my own. Take this with a grain of salt.)

I believe your mother is only telling one and one quarter sides of the story. Because, you see, here's the thing about the Republican voters and mail-in ballots. Trump, for a solid 6 months insisted for all of his supporters to go to the polls and vote in person, rather than mailing them in.

It is true that onlookers both Democratic and Republican were not allowed in during the counting, however. One could consider that shady and stuff, but one could also say it's because Trump keeps poking his head in and always having something to say.

Most fraud claims were made by Trump, and even with cases being filed, and complaints being made, there is no true evidence. So not to say there isn't voting fraud, but as of now, there is absolutely no proof.

okay listen up you guys

trump told his supporters to vote in person. he said not to use the mail in process, he literally told them to vote in person. of course he isn't getting any goddamn mail in votes, when his supporters, who listen to what he has to say, were told to vote at in person ballot boxes. so yeah, biden got a huge influx. because 1. nearly ALL of trump's supporters refused to mail and instead went in person, therefore meaning all the people who didn't were probably supporters of other candidates and 2. a bunch of the mail in ballots are absentee ballots from overseas soldiers so they took a bit to get here, and a bunch of those soldiers very likely don't like trump after his whole thing shit talking biden's son and making fun of him

Ok, People are crummy and they do crummy things, there has always been and will always be fraud , it's just a fact of human kind that if there is a way to cheat the system we're going to do it. I don't think it's on as large of a scale as is being reported but I think it is happening. It's why counting all of the votes is going to take so long because when a huge influx like that happens you have to double check all of the information making sure the person can actually vote and that they haven't voted twice or if it's even a real person.
There are reasons for a large portion of mail in ballots being In favor of Biden, so I'm not surprised that a large percentage are for him. Statistically it's just weird for 100% to show up, Not impossible but weird and when weird things happen people are going to grab onto it and start speculating.
I personally find it very strange that 100% of them were for Biden, I don't think that automatically means there was foul play but I would love to see extra care being taken in verifying those votes. As for refusing the Democratic and Republican onlookers, that's just suspicious, I understand not wanting people in your face saying your doing something wrong but it's just suspicious, legally they're allowed to be there.
So we'll have to wait and see, was there fraud, most definitely, but on that large of a scale unlikely.
I am not a fan of Trump I would Love to see him out of office, but I want him out of office the right way.

okay but is there any proof that all 100% were for biden? or are you guys just tossing around that percentage when it turns out that it was just a really large portion were voting biden?

like noah fence lmao but from what i've gathered ella's mom says a lot of bullshit. a lot of kids on here who's parents are republican seem to have the same issue

Upon further research that was a typo on the counters part that was quickly spread, but corrected in a half hour of it happening
I still stand by what I said concerning fraud, I don't doubt that it's happening, and had the news been true I stand with what I said about stats. I think extra care should still be taken. It was weird, and it was wrong so I'm glad it looked weird and was caught as a mistake so that things would progress as they should.

Yeah, a vast majority of mail in ballots are going to be blue this race, so it totally makes sense that this is happening. Also there is pretty much no way 100% of the votes during a certain stretch of time were for Biden. Even if it were fraud, I'm sure the people doing it would be smarter than that.
And if anyone is trying to break laws this election, it's the Republicans. There's been a lot of attempted voter suppression and voter intimidation. And a lot of people are having to call in to verify mail in ballots due to things like "the signatures don't match."

like noah fence lmao but from what i've gathered ella's mom says a lot of bullshit. a lot of kids on here who's parents are republican seem to have the same issue

oh definitely
which is why I asked y’all’s opinions instead of just taking her every word lol

like noah fence lmao but from what i've gathered ella's mom says a lot of bullshit. a lot of kids on here who's parents are republican seem to have the same issue

oh definitely
which is why I asked y’all’s opinions instead of just taking her every word lol

lmao yeah, props on you for doing that though. i know so many kids irl who take their parents' word as gospel and straight fact, and are like….incapable of questioning anything their parents' say? like lol bro. parents can be wrong. they're still human and humans are stupid

Also for some reason, republican's are more likely to vote in person and democrats are more likely to vote by mail. It's probably because Trump was telling his voters to vote in person, and because I'm guessing democrats fear covid a little more. So thats why all the mail in ballots are for Biden

considering it's republicans who are still going to presidential rallies and parades and shit, without masks–

Red mirage, baby. People said this would happen and Trumpies are still pissed about it.

aheh

of course I come back to politics

it's election year lmao what else would you come back to

CHAOS

Well, this election year and the chat around election day was somewhat chaotic. So I guess that counts?

I mean, honestly it wasn't all that bad. At least we don't have any open Trumpies on here. Because it's really hard to explain anything to them…
I should know. That's kinda my family in a nutshell.

I mean, honestly it wasn't all that bad. At least we don't have any open Trumpies on here. Because it's really hard to explain anything to them…
I should know. That's kinda my family in a nutshell.

of course there's no trumpies, we're either gen z or maybe millennials
and i couldn't ask for anything better lmao

I mean, honestly it wasn't all that bad. At least we don't have any open Trumpies on here. Because it's really hard to explain anything to them…
I should know. That's kinda my family in a nutshell.

of course there's no trumpies, we're either gen z or maybe millennials
and i couldn't ask for anything better lmao

I actually know of one person on here who could possibly be a trumpie, but they’re not that active to my knowledge at least

I mean, honestly it wasn't all that bad. At least we don't have any open Trumpies on here. Because it's really hard to explain anything to them…
I should know. That's kinda my family in a nutshell.

of course there's no trumpies, we're either gen z or maybe millennials
and i couldn't ask for anything better lmao

I actually know of one person on here who could possibly be a trumpie, but they’re not that active to my knowledge at least

oh shit who

I mean, honestly it wasn't all that bad. At least we don't have any open Trumpies on here. Because it's really hard to explain anything to them…
I should know. That's kinda my family in a nutshell.

of course there's no trumpies, we're either gen z or maybe millennials
and i couldn't ask for anything better lmao

There's at least three conservatives that I can think of off the top of my head and way too many people bothered about a school banning the confederate flag

I mean, honestly it wasn't all that bad. At least we don't have any open Trumpies on here. Because it's really hard to explain anything to them…
I should know. That's kinda my family in a nutshell.

of course there's no trumpies, we're either gen z or maybe millennials
and i couldn't ask for anything better lmao

I actually know of one person on here who could possibly be a trumpie, but they’re not that active to my knowledge at least

oh shit who

I ain’t gonna namedrop them on the public forums for multiple reasons, but in addition to being a possible trumpie, they don’t have very good debating skills and have never provided sources when asked for them, they’re just not a very nice person overall even personality-wise from what I can see. So at the base most trumpies are very hard to explain things to; this person is even worse to explain things to. One of their highlights was believing that heterophobia is real, to which pretty much everyone tried to tell them it wasn’t and they basically jumped ship the moment it happened.
They’re also in this chat I’m pretty sure? I don’t know though.

To make matters worse they are a gen z iirc. In a world where it’s easy to get multiple sources from the internet (so they could’ve very easily pulled one up if asked) it just baffles me that someone could be like that unironically. at least I think they are, because their age has ‘changed’ multiple times throughout a year, thus they could be lying. Or just a miracle of science.

I mean, honestly it wasn't all that bad. At least we don't have any open Trumpies on here. Because it's really hard to explain anything to them…
I should know. That's kinda my family in a nutshell.

of course there's no trumpies, we're either gen z or maybe millennials
and i couldn't ask for anything better lmao

I actually know of one person on here who could possibly be a trumpie, but they’re not that active to my knowledge at least

oh shit who

I ain’t gonna namedrop them on the public forums for multiple reasons, but in addition to being a possible trumpie, they don’t have very good debating skills and have never provided sources when asked for them, they’re just not a very nice person overall even personality-wise from what I can see. So at the base most trumpies are very hard to explain things to; this person is even worse to explain things to. One of their highlights was believing that heterophobia is real, to which pretty much everyone tried to tell them it wasn’t and they basically jumped ship the moment it happened.
They’re also in this chat I’m pretty sure? I don’t know though.

To make matters worse they are a gen z iirc. In a world where it’s easy to get multiple sources from the internet (so they could’ve very easily pulled one up if asked) it just baffles me that someone could be like that unironically. at least I think they are, because their age has ‘changed’ multiple times throughout a year, thus they could be lying. Or just a miracle of science.

oof i'm so sorry for asking, i'm impulsive sometimes
but yeah, that pisses me off too, especially the heterophobia
yuck

at least I think they are, because their age has ‘changed’ multiple times throughout a year, thus they could be lying. Or just a miracle of science.

plot twist, they're renesmee cullen

Who knows. I mean, real talk? I used to be pretty conservative because of my family and I have one word: indoctrination.
Oh, and also as soon as I really started growing up and learning empathy, things changed big time. So make of that what you will.

at least I think they are, because their age has ‘changed’ multiple times throughout a year, thus they could be lying. Or just a miracle of science.

plot twist, they're renesmee cullen

I'm going to scream

at least I think they are, because their age has ‘changed’ multiple times throughout a year, thus they could be lying. Or just a miracle of science.

they're mae tuck then lmao