I don't know how to tell you to care about other people instead of justifying your selfish views through misinformation.
This is all I know, it could be wrong information but yet again this is what I know. I’m also not trying to care badly about other people it’s just that in my eyes it doesn’t seem like that bad of a thing
Then why are you making claims instead of actually researching more?
I can not put to words how insanely toxic and deadly this whole "whatever, it's just a mild flu, it won't hurt me" mindset is-
I’m not saying that it’s a mild flu, it is deadly to some people, but from what I know it’s not hurting most people
Someone did get it twice and serviced both times
I don't know how to tell you to care about other people instead of justifying your selfish views through misinformation.
This is all I know, it could be wrong information but yet again this is what I know. I’m also not trying to care badly about other people it’s just that in my eyes it doesn’t seem like that bad of a thing
Then why are you making claims instead of actually researching more?
Because I was starting what with what I know like most people do, but I will start researching more
Here’s what I found:
“In a Chinese analysis of more than 72,000 case records, 2.3% of those confirmed or suspected (based on symptoms and exposure) to have the virus died. Patients above 80 years of age had an alarmingly high fatality rate of 14.8%. Patients ages 70 to 79 years had a fatality rate of 8%. In Italy, where the death toll from the virus stood at 52 as of March 4, the fatalities were all in people over age 60.” https://www.livescience.com/is-coronavirus-deadly.html
“On Sunday, Health Secretary Matt Hancock said the UK government's "very best assessment" was that the mortality rate was "2% or, likely, lower". https://www.bbc.com/news/health-51674743
“Some people infected with the virus have no symptoms. When the virus does cause symptoms, common ones include low-grade fever, body aches, coughing, nasal congestion, runny nose, and sore throat. However, COVID-19 can occasionally cause more severe symptoms like high fever, severe cough, and shortness of breath, which often indicates pneumonia.” https://www.health.harvard.edu/diseases-and-conditions/coronavirus-resource-center
In all three of those, you're disproving your point. The first two are from March 4. The third one… Tell me you can see why that's just proving my point.
That said, I'm legitimately done. Have fun when all your relatives die because you thought that just because it didn't affect you right away it wasn't a big deal. That is all.
In all three of those, you're disproving your point. The first two are from March 4. The third one… Tell me you can see why that's just proving my point.
That said, I'm legitimately done. Have fun when all your relatives die because you thought that just because it didn't affect you right away it wasn't a big deal. That is all.
Well I did like an idiot go with the ones that were on age one of google I should go to bing
Also saying have fun when all my relative die is kinda crossing the line
I'll attempt to explain using some good old American history.
So, there are the two groups of people:
Those being prepared by cancelling large events and gatherings (such as concerts or schools), staying home, keeping calm
And those going on vacations, sharing food/drinks, setting up large festivals or gatherings, and acting like nothing's happening because "it's just a flu"
I'm going to represent those mindsets using the cities of St Louis and Philadelphia, during the horror that was the 1918 pandemic-
St Louis was extremely quick to act, cancelling all schools, gatherings, festivals, concerts, telling people to work from home, taking every precaution they could before there was even a single case in the city.
Philadelphia, on the other hand, despite being urged not to by medical professionals, held the city's largest parade, with hundreds of thousands of people crowding together to watch the show.
While at first St Louis was looked down upon for being so restrictive over a flu, people's minds changed very quickly once the sickness started spreading, with Philadelphia being the main center of the outbreak.
Due to the insane rise of cases in such a small area, hospitals were unable to treat most of the patients, and millions of people lost their lives because of it.
St Louis, however, had one of the lowest death rates in the US, even though the cases were still quite high in the end. This is cause even though the disease still spread, due to the lack of socialization, it spread very slowly, allowing the medics to keep up with treatment.
If you want more recent examples, look at South Korea vs Italy. They were both hit hard with Coronavirus, but Italy was much less prepared, and now they're having to choose between saving the life of a 40-year-old mother with three young kids, a 60-year-old with high blood pressure, or a 20-year-old with severe health conditions, all while people are dying in the hallways due to lack of beds.
There's a reason everything's being shut down so early. The cities aren't being over-dramatic. Lives are at stake, and they're doing what's been proven to work in order to save innocent people.
Sorry if that gets in the way of your summer vacation plans.
You have a very good point there
It's not "that bad"
but you know what is?
tHE STOCK MARKET IS CRASHING
WELL SAID, NUTELLA!!!
It's not "that bad"
but you know what is?
tHE STOCK MARKET IS CRASHING
Yeah it is pretty terrible.
I don’t really go on this chat but I really want to say something here.
Yeah I think that 2021 global recession might come a little bit earlier. Things go up and down all the time; we’ve been awaiting a recession for a few years now.
The schools at my province just got shut down for the next two weeks (technically 3, because March break is next week) because of the virus. Younger people have been found to not express symptoms in the same way an adult does. Just in case someone lives with their grandparents, who are more susceptible to sicknesses, or younger children, or people with messed up immune systems.
It took the SARS (a similar virus) 8 months to reach 8000 people infected. It also killed around 774 people.
It took COVID-19 3-4 months to reach that amount. If a cure or vaccine isn’t made, imagine how many will be infected in 8 months.
COVID-19 was able to kill nearly 3 times more people than SARS in the span of eight weeks.
Both SARS and COVID-19 are related to each other. They’re both coronaviruses.
And to add into that, SARS was different because people generally believed things a bit more, they washed their hands when they were told to. People with COVID-19 now; they’re not really doing the same things with SARS, even though they’re told pretty much everywhere to wash their hands, self isolate if you show symptoms.
And with viruses, viruses have a nature to rapidly mutate. Those mutations could be good or bad for the virus itself. Those mutations could help it infect more people. Those mutations could lead to the ability in order to spread through more different species. Although most of the time you shouldn’t worry if it mutates during outbreaks like these, given most of the mutations will be negative for the virus itself. still, you should always be aware of the virus itself.
the media is just blowing the coronavirus out of proportion. it's just a mild flu with no vaccine yet
So I heard a Law that’s going to Congress about the government being able to listen to your private conversations (on tech. not when talking) and so
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It’s not real, first of all, because that’s a breach of your fourth amendment rights.
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Isn't this a Debate Chat. Not an "Okay everybody take a vote" Chat?
I just like to see how many people are on each side
It’s not real, first of all, because that’s a breach of your fourth amendment rights.
bruh they do it 24/7
It’s not real, first of all, because that’s a breach of your fourth amendment rights.
If it ever were to happen, it would potentially break the first amendment
It’s not real, first of all, because that’s a breach of your fourth amendment rights.
bruh they do it 24/7
you can't prove that
It’s not real, first of all, because that’s a breach of your fourth amendment rights.
bruh they do it 24/7
you can't prove that
bruh it's common knowledge
It’s not real, first of all, because that’s a breach of your fourth amendment rights.
bruh they do it 24/7
you can't prove that
bruh it's common knowledge
This is a debate though. Grab some evidence, Mir. Back up your claim and prove that you're right.
It’s not real, first of all, because that’s a breach of your fourth amendment rights.
bruh they do it 24/7
you can't prove that
bruh it's common knowledge
How common
It’s not fucking common because it was a federal fucking case and it went to the Supreme Court. It ISN’T common, and it WOULDN’T happen.
It’s ‘Sides’ now because @Utinam-Ne-Illum-Numquam-Conspexissem brought up a good point
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No update to the numbers it just has a new name
Emi is right to cite the Fourth amendment. For Miri to defend, I would advise she look up the Patriot Act.