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Started March 14, 2019 by Deleted user

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Apparently most unschoolers do include a lot of social activity, but not all…

Ehhhhhh– Idk about 'real world'.

None of yall know how to do taxes

Also good point. WHY DON'T WE LEARN THAT????

Because the American public education system is literal shit

Because the American public education system is literal shit

lmao yep

I do know how to buy a car and move from place to place and other sorts

Well that's not very….invasive. lol

Ehhhhhh– Idk about 'real world'.

None of yall know how to do taxes

Also good point. WHY DON'T WE LEARN THAT????

We have a required personal finance class but I took it not even a full year ago and I don't remember anything. And we didn't really learn anything in it either. Except that juliard has a 6% acceptance rate. I learned that during one of our projects

Unschooling, when done at home, is child neglect.
Unschooling, when done as an alternative to classroom learning still at school with teacher supervision, is education.

Ehhhhhh– Idk about 'real world'.

None of yall know how to do taxes

Also good point. WHY DON'T WE LEARN THAT????

We have a required personal finance class but I took it not even a full year ago and I don't remember anything. And we didn't really learn anything in it either. Except that juliard has a 6% acceptance rate. I learned that during one of our projects

Yeah, I took an Intro To Business and Marketing class my freshman year and we learned about advertising and the stock market, but not how to do taxes.

Unschooling, when done at home, is child neglect.
Unschooling, when done as an alternative to classroom learning still at school with teacher supervision, is education.

^^^^^^^^

My old school (you know, the "threesome in the bathroom" 'upper middle school' where the VP got his kneecaps broken) was split up into houses that students got randomly sorted into, with a fifth option that was basically unschooling. Students still had teachers, but it was project based as opposed to assignment based so students could do things that interested them. So you'd have a biology lesson with a bio teacher, then choose to research and do a presentation on invasive species in the Great Lakes or something as opposed to extra reading or a test.

_{I did a project on the food chains in the great lakes. I used like, no effort, but I mean…it was interesting}

Thats kind of similar to my school
I go to a wack charter school
We have this website and on it are these things called "playlists" and we have a bunch of playlists for each subject. You have class time thats similar to a study hall to work on them or whatever else you want to work on. They all have resources in them and then you take a test and if you get 8/10 (7/10 for AP classes) ou pass the test. You have to pass them all by the end of the year.
And then in our regular classes, we have projects. The projects are all graded by this rubric and we have class time to work on them and get help from the teacher if we need it. Sometimes we do presentations in class or have class discussions and we get graded on those. Whatever we don't finish in class we finish at home cause almost all of our work is online.
(If anyone has any questions about my school I will gladly answer it, I don't explain it very well lol)

My 8th grade English teacher was amazing, she let us choose from a list of different end-of-unit assignments for each book we read. For example, with Frankenstein people could do art things, make playlists, or do comedy sketches.
One group had Victor and the Creature appear on Doctor Phil for familial counseling and I've never seen a teacher look so amused and so disappointed at the same time
We made movie trailers at the end of the year for a book we read that school year, we acted out Hamlet as sock puppets, etc.

Why would she be disappointed?? That sounds amazing

It slowly devolved into a screaming match. I think Victor may have thrown a pillow at Doctor Phil.

as he should

Indeed.

You can't tell me that's not what would happen

That's also a fair point.
Except the pillow almost hit her tv.

Unschooling seems like it would be really great for a select few, but horrible for most people.

Unschooling seems like it would be really great for a select few, but horrible for most people.

Yeah, for some people it could work super well, but for others it'd probably just become surfing the web and accomplishing nothing.

Yeah pretty much

I think homeschooling in general is kinda messed up.
Real school brings social and 'real world' education, which is important.
Very important.

You’re spitting what’s been said. Homeschooling doesn’t equate to socially starving children. It happens. But that is the minority. I was one of the more ‘never leaves the house’ kind and I hated it. But (no offense) I think I am at least as skilled in every way as the rest of you. I’m not as good socially as some; but I blame that on completely different things. And even when our education sucked sometimes (periods of not doing much), I still came out higher than the state levels. (I think. I know for sure that it is very common.) A lot of kids know American history better than I do. But most can’t argue decently or tell the flaws in the French Revolution or hell even know what the Edict of Milan is and why it was hugely important.

Ehhhhhh– Idk about 'real world'.

None of yall know how to do taxes

Good point. But it’s already known that public school sucks. Hell, even my college classes (except for the science classes, those are very good) teach barely anything.

I think homeschooling in general is kinda messed up.
Real school brings social and 'real world' education, which is important.
Very important.

You’re spitting what’s been said. Homeschooling doesn’t equate to socially starving children. It happens. But that is the minority. I was one of the more ‘never leaves the house’ kind and I hated it. But (no offense) I think I am at least as skilled in every way as the rest of you. I’m not as good socially as some; but I blame that on completely different things. And even when our education sucked sometimes (periods of not doing much), I still came out higher than the state levels. (I think. I know for sure that it is very common.) A lot of kids know American history better than I do. But most can’t argue decently or tell the flaws in the French Revolution or hell even know what the Edict of Milan is and why it was hugely important.

I mean we spent two weeks on the French Revolution and did an extended roleplay/simulator to see what peasant life was like but okay

You what
I wanna do that

It was fun! The teacher gave us each a packet to write notes in, then she'd have us do tasks like cut up paper and sketch a very detailed drawing of wheat on it as our landowners watched and we were timed. Then we'd present what we'd done and the landowners took most of it for themselves. Then we'd have meetings with the king and queen and suggest changes but get vetoed. My teacher was really big on hands-on experience, there was one time where we divided up into groups to discuss a treaty about who got what land in South America (one group was Portugal, one was Spain, and the other were the natives of the area). We all did a ton of research and were supposed to argue why we deserved the land, and she let the Portugal and Spain groups speak and wouldn't let the native group speak. When that group was upset, she explained that that's essentially what happened back then. She was amazing!

Sweet. You obviously had some sweetness in your education. (But the percentage of knowledge and intelligence is higher on this site for why I consider to be obvious reasons.) But can you briefly outline the reason that the French Revolution was a stupid decision? Also do you know what the Edict of Milan is?

The French Revolution was ultimately a stupid decision since it caused many unnecessary deaths via the Reign of Terror, escalating what could have been a bloodless compromise into a bloodbath of epic proportions. Never discussed the Edict of Milan but I also dropped the class after first semester to try online school.