Check out Sarah Z's video on double standards in diverse media, it kinda pertains to this.

OOF @MontJyn thank you for that

I’ll second Jyn on this one.

And that's just covering The Force Awakens, not to mention how she trains in The Last Jedi and still could barely fight 1 guard while Kylo took on 3. And how she had to face the harsh truth about her parents, and how she was tossed around by Snoke, and how she wasn't even the one to land the killing blow on him, or the one who ended the battle of Crait. Or that she willingly went along with Kylo in the force bond and still wasn't able to convince him to take her side.

But Kylo as a villain sucks ass, tbh. Just sayin'

That's because he's gonna be redeemed. He's not staying a villain.

He's a byronic character

I’ll sum is up because I don’t want to make this too long. And correct it if I am wrong as I am not fully educated but have only seen many opinions.
She is a better pilot then everyone else, even in vehicles she’s never flown before.
Better shot and only misses once even with ships never before used.
Hella force strength without training.
Really good lightsaber weilder and is better than everyone except one Grand Jedi Master for a bit even when he had killed other Jedi still without training.
She is oh so good.
Immediately liked except by people we are supposed to dislike and the guy who committed suicide while and then she robs him and that is supposed to be good.
The world is hugely bent around her as power comes with training yet she has unprecedented levels of power nonetheless. (Barring dudes like Yoda who had trained forever.)
She is the main focus whenever on screen, even making the villain drop the search for the map that is his main objective because of her, as well as making the defected stormtrooper at odds with his backstory as well as making a central character ignore already existent friendships to put critical story needs on her shoulders after first meeting.
She’s the best and the support characters only get a chance to shine when she is out of the screen.
She faces no true difficulty and wins no matter the odds.

• Incorrect, Poe Dameron and Han Solo are better pilots, and she's used a flight simulator since the age of 12
• Finn was the one who was shooting the Falcon, not Rey.
  -…..yeah, that's how the force works. So was Anakin. And Ezra.
• She fought with a melee weapon her whole life, and if you pay attention, her technique is really sloppy. And the 1 guy she beat had just been shot in the chest with a heavy-duty weapon and was still reeling from killing his father
• Not really?
• When was that? I've seen TFA like 5 times and don't remember someone committing suicide and Rey robbing him
• Mmmm not really. We see that she's gifted and we see her train later. She has raw power, that's it.
• Yeah, because she's the protagonist. They tend to be the focus.
• Again, she's the protagonist. That's what happens with protagonists. And we see plenty of badassery from everyone.
• She got her ass kicked by Kylo at first and got slammed into a tree, then only won because he was weak and injured from Chewie and Finn, but sure.

Nice defense!
Protagonist is the hero of their story, not the universe. She shouldn’t have been the focus of Kylo because he was on his find Luke quest.
Idk about Ezra and don’t consider him cannon. And sure, Anakin was really strong. But he had what? Ten years of training before he did anything besides have heightened senses? Same with Luke. He was Anakin “the most amazing ever blablaba’s” son. And Rey was way stronger than him. That seems wrong. Especially since it was demonstrated in the originals that even though Luke had amazing potential, he was still really really weak until Yoda trained him. So I think the OP biz still stands.
And has she ever done anything stupid (and had to pay for it?)
Also I believe the suicide guy is Luke.
And who trained her?

You need to consider Ezra canon because he literally is? Rey isn't stronger than Anakin, no one is stronger than Anakin.
Luke doesn't commit suicide? She gets trained by Luke Fucking Skywalker in The Last Jedi. Personally I think it's unfair that you're judging her when you haven't even seen the second movie she was in, and the third isn't even out yet. Her arc isn't complete yet, especially not for you.

Upon meeting a 9 year old Anakin, Qui-Gon could instantly tell that he was force-sensitive. He not only survived but won in a sport that was impossible for normal humans, and then made a near-impossible shot to destroy the Trade Federation shuttle. When he was 9 and had no training or education of any kind.

Personally I think it's unfair that you're judging her when you haven't even seen the second movie she was in, and the third isn't even out yet. Her arc isn't complete yet, especially not for you.

Solid points. I withdraw.

Good morning to everyone except my mother ☺

DOM!

:D

Also- to jump in at the last second here: Let's not forget that Rey is a Disney Character, she is specifically written to not have much dare I say personality simply because the studio that controls her, focuses mainly on it's female characters leaning towards the 'meek-goodie-two-shoes' stereotype. Which you can plainly see in the complete character destruction of Leia in the recent movies.

So yea, she may be a bit of a Mary Sue but she's meant to be that way so young children (Disney's main audience) can 'relate' enough to her so they can make a profit. Her arch could have been way, way more focused into something truly strong and badass, but that is just not the type of studio that Disney is.

Luke has always been a bland Gary Stu. Fite me.

Luke has always been a bland Gary Stu. Fite me.

Not going to because agreed

I’ve heard the word f*g or variants at least twenty times in just the three days I’ve been going to public I thought we were over this but oh well

Jyn Erso begs to differ.

Jyn Erso begs to differ.

About the Disney protag thing, not the…other thing.

Luke has always been a bland Gary Stu. Fite me.

Not going to because agreed

bUt i wAs gOiNg iNtO tOscHe sTaTiOn tO pIcK uP sOmE pOwER coNVeRtErS!!!

Jyn Erso begs to differ.

About the Disney protag thing, not the…other thing.

oof I always forget about that masterpiece of a movie. I consider that not a Disney movie because it's amazing and everyone dies.
Jyn is the outlier. There is always one

Luke has always been a bland Gary Stu. Fite me.

Not going to because agreed

bUt i wAs gOiNg iNtO tOscHe sTaTiOn tO pIcK uP sOmE pOwER coNVeRtErS!!!

MAYBE if you had some EMOTION other than BLAND POTATO we'd have loved you as much as ANAKIN you casual FLOOF

Jyn Erso begs to differ.

About the Disney protag thing, not the…other thing.

oof I always forget about that masterpiece of a movie. I consider that not a Disney movie because it's amazing and everyone dies.
Jyn is the outlier. There is always one

When I tell people that Rogue One is my favorite movie they're always like "huh??" and I'm like -__-
I'm sure you totally couldn't tell that I really really love Rogue One based on my completely original and not Star Wars referencing username ;P
The TV shows also do a good job with Hera and Sabine especially because Sabine gets to be angry. A girl gets to be angry.

Dude I love Rogue One. It's so good.
Jynnie did you like Solo? I'm curious what the Star Wars expert thinks

I really love it then again I love all of them
It's a movie I rewatch a lot because it always makes me happy. Also Emilia Clarke is gorgeous.
The two things I dislike are that the first 10 minutes have really bad lighting and it's hard to see, and the death of Tobias Beckett since it seemed kinda rushed/last minute and I think the ending would've been better if there was still an active threat to Han.

Off topic. The kids on my bus are so loud and annoying. My earbuds are broken. I have to listen to them. One of them is claiming he made up the word hooker. I think that word's been around longer than he has or at least almost as long. The rest are agreeing. I wish my parents would let me drive.

O O F
Yeah, sounds like a public school bus.
And surprisingly normal as far as that goes….let's just say my friends have seen worse. Along with at the school I went to last year. Much worse.

Oof. The public school buses for my school were so bad I chose to walk 3 miles to and from school

I just get dropped off cuz it's not far from my sister's school

_{One of my friends walked into a threeway in a school bathroom when he was in 9th grade….I fucking hated that school.}