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@Moxie group

  • Not a requirement. I'm not into forcing kids to do anything unnecessary for life.

Okay so. First of all, knowledge is power, and like Eris said, learning about other cultures and other skills, etc. Is really important. But there's also a scientific reason why.
The arts improve your cognitive function (including attention span, ability to comprehend information) and brain development. Things that kids do when they do art stuff develops fine motor skills (painting, drawing, even dancing). Creating art and dancing develops your brain better than it would without this training, by lengthening your attention span, and further improving your ability to process information. Researchers have found that people who do performing arts "differed in many white matter regions, including sensory and motor pathways, both at the primary and higher cognitive levels of processing".
Here are a few (credible) resources backing me up on this:
http://www.aasa.org/SchoolAdministratorArticle.aspx?id=7378
http://www.dana.org/Cerebrum/2009/How_Arts_Training_Improves_Attention_and_Cognition/

Performing arts also improve your public speaking skills. Performing in front of an audience at a young age gives you the confidence to effectively speak in public.
Here's the source on this:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/answer-sheet/wp/2013/01/22/top-10-skills-children-learn-from-the-arts/?utm_term=.2e98761824bd

The arts aren't unnecessary or not a requirement. Besides learning about new things, they also shape the way a child's brain works, and how they perform later in life.

@evastardust groupRRAAAARRL

Yes! But I like making my own.

Cool! I get a new one every year on my mission trip which I'm missing this year, rip and I usually get them at Christmas when I'm buying gifts! I have a super cute one with a little cabin on it!

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Cute. I got a few plain ones from a craft store and then painted them myself. :)

@evastardust groupRRAAAARRL

Should stores provide free canvas bags? I think they should.

No. Why should a business give things for free?

Well, by that logic, you should have to pay for plastic and paper bags as well.

@evastardust groupRRAAAARRL

It would make more sense to find a way to make light, fairly heavy-duty bags that are canvas or a plastic/canvas hybrid and give those out, and then offer a rewards program for people who reuse them. Or use boxes and stuff like Costco the best place to hide during the zombie apocolypse

@evastardust groupRRAAAARRL

Perhaps the stores think the plastic ones are cheap enough they feel it's worth the not hassle.

They also use paper ones, are they the same price per unit?
I haven't worked in retail, has anyone in here?

@Althalosian-is-the-father book

It would make more sense to find a way to make light, fairly heavy-duty bags that are canvas or a plastic/canvas hybrid and give those out, and then offer a rewards program for people who reuse them. Or use boxes and stuff like Costco the best place to hide during the zombie apocolypse

I agree. And yesssssss. Also consider Home Despot. But Costco has food. Does it have decent weapons?

@evastardust groupRRAAAARRL

It would make more sense to find a way to make light, fairly heavy-duty bags that are canvas or a plastic/canvas hybrid and give those out, and then offer a rewards program for people who reuse them. Or use boxes and stuff like Costco the best place to hide during the zombie apocolypse

I agree. And yesssssss. Also consider Home Despot. But Costco has food. Does it have decent weapons?

Personally I'd go to Target because it has food and also books, clothes, and furniture
I've spent too much time in Home Depot……

@evastardust groupRRAAAARRL

The walls seem pretty thick. I haven't been in one for an extended period of time since last summer (the restaurant I worked at was next to a Target so I'd go there after work). Also they have coffee

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~Yes. Target is a great place, after you board up the front windows.

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Also, canvas bags are extremely cheap to make so giving them out for free at stores wouldn't be too unlikely.

@evastardust groupRRAAAARRL

Also, canvas bags are extremely cheap to make so giving them out for free at stores wouldn't be too unlikely.

Yeah, I'd love to see them at stores for free, they're reusable and convinient for carrying stuff even out of stores. I usually take them with me on trips to carry things in, especially if something will be too big for my cinch sack.
I got a massive bag from the Hasbro Pulse booth at SWCC, it's at least 2 feet

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I can fit myself into my canvas bag that i use for grocery shopping.

I am pretty tiny though so that's not much of a comparison but……you know.

@Moxie group

Nicely done Moxie!!! Very good argument. I'll have to rethink my position.
It was even better than Eris's.

Sooooooo have you changed your mind? Or if not do you have a rebuttal or questions?

@Moxie group

I think that Costco would be better than Target, simply because Costco has way more stuff, and it has it all in bulk. Sleep in the inflatable raft. Use the kitchen knives to stab zombies. Eat all the frozen food. Close the giant entrance with giant metal garage doors. Climb the super tall shelves to get away from zombies. It's perfect.

@Althalosian-is-the-father book

Nicely done Moxie!!! Very good argument. I'll have to rethink my position.
It was even better than Eris's.

Sooooooo have you changed your mind? Or if not do you have a rebuttal or questions?

Actually I think you have. If people are to be forced to learn math and reading, which can be argued are necessary to life, then your take on art is probably correct. Not 100%. But make it a 95.

@Althalosian-is-the-father book

I think that Costco would be better than Target, simply because Costco has way more stuff, and it has it all in bulk. Sleep in the inflatable raft. Use the kitchen knives to stab zombies. Eat all the frozen food. Close the giant entrance with giant metal garage doors. Climb the super tall shelves to get away from zombies. It's perfect.

I agree.

@evastardust groupRRAAAARRL

I dislike musicals– no, I hate them.

"The Guy Who Did Like Musicals by Starkid:

Didn't like didn't like did not like like like 'em

@tall-dark-&-cringy

My rule of thumb is that if it doesn't involve you in any way you don't get an opinion. (levels a gaze at old white men)

Well, everyone gets an opinion, you can't take that away from anyone (unless you silence them, however that may be) The consequences of that opinion, if thus shared, and whether or not that opinion will be adopted as right or wrong in society is what matters. And it's not always old white men, it can be condescending and conservative women (usually older) as well. Returns to corner

Agreed.