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@Althalosian-is-the-father book

yeah, but it would help someone work if they had certain necessities provided to them to help give them a start in life. everyone should get a shot at living a decent life, and some people just need a little extra help, especially if they have diseases or disabilities

I think I agree with you. But who pays for it?

@_sleeby_rat_

I’m not super experienced on tax money flow, but we have to pay taxes normally, right? Well, the government decides what to do with that cash, so they could move funding away from less important things, or things that have a surplus of funding, to provide basic things like free tampons or something. And if the US kept out of wars like it did before, our war neutrality policy would make it easy to afford other things without having to give the ungodly amount of cash it does to the military. Defenses are one thing, but actively meddling in other countries’ affairs are another

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Why? Just because they are necessary doesn't mean you get to have them just by existing. (Though I think except in rare cases only tampons count.)

Tampons were invented during WWII to help stabilize gunshot wounds so soldiers could get transported to hospitals without bleeding out. Red Cross nurses figured out another use for them and voila.

Why is is such a bizarre concept for people to have access to free healthcare?? Yes, this counts as healthcare. Women did not choose this part of biology, we can't stop it, so why should we have to pay through the nose for products to help us stay clean and healthy? Did you know that menstruation blood can actually kill a woman if not properly taken care of? Probably not. This is a serious issue that needs to be fixed. Having access to free products would make the world a cleaner and healthier place.

If men had something similar, I can tell you with 100% certainty that the corresponding products would be free. Without a doubt.

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But it's not necessary.

Yes it is. Teen pregnancy can be prevented 100% if they had access to free products, because as I said before 'abstinence' is not a plausible way to prevent anything. STD rates would go down as well.

And as Ace helpfully supplied, there are other extremely wonderful benefits to birth control. Scientists are even developing a BC pill that will help regulate hormones in males as well, which could help a multitude of mental health issues on top of it's designed purpose.

Giving a teen birth control doesn't tell them that it is okay to go and start having sex. I was on the pill for 3 years before I even started thinking about sex. My best friend is still a virgin and she's been on it longer than me. So that argument is folly.

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I’m not super experienced on tax money flow, but we have to pay taxes normally, right? Well, the government decides what to do with that cash, so they could move funding away from less important things, or things that have a surplus of funding, to provide basic things like free tampons or something. And if the US kept out of wars like it did before, our war neutrality policy would make it easy to afford other things without having to give the ungodly amount of cash it does to the military. Defenses are one thing, but actively meddling in other countries’ affairs are another

^^^^ The US has the biggest military budget in the world. It can 100% be reduced to benefit free healthcare with minor drawbacks in military defenses.

@Althalosian-is-the-father book

Why is is such a bizarre concept for people to have access to free healthcare?? Yes, this counts as healthcare. Women did not choose this part of biology, we can't stop it, so why should we have to pay through the nose for products to help us stay clean and healthy? Did you know that menstruation blood can actually kill a woman if not properly taken care of? Probably not. This is a serious issue that needs to be fixed. Having access to free products would make the world a cleaner and healthier place.

If men had something similar, I can tell you with 100% certainty that the corresponding products would be free. Without a doubt.

Because it means people who aren't willing to pay for it are forced to. And if men had that I wouldn't feel any different. I would still be against it.

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It is only necessary is it is needed to stay alive. At least in the vast majority birth control doesn't fall under that category.

Pregnancy spells death for some women so actually yes it does.

@evastardust groupRRAAAARRL

It is only necessary is it is needed to stay alive. At least in the vast majority birth control doesn't fall under that category.

Pregnancy spells death for some women so actually yes it does.

And like Eris said, some women can literally bleed to death if they aren't on birth control. So yeah. Pretty necessary.

Deleted user

Why is is such a bizarre concept for people to have access to free healthcare?? Yes, this counts as healthcare. Women did not choose this part of biology, we can't stop it, so why should we have to pay through the nose for products to help us stay clean and healthy? Did you know that menstruation blood can actually kill a woman if not properly taken care of? Probably not. This is a serious issue that needs to be fixed. Having access to free products would make the world a cleaner and healthier place.

If men had something similar, I can tell you with 100% certainty that the corresponding products would be free. Without a doubt.

Because it means people who aren't willing to pay for it are forced to. And if men had that I wouldn't feel any different. I would still be against it.

They are getting forced to pay for ridiculous military 'defenses' right now. Im sure 80% of people that pay taxes in this country would feel more comfortable paying for something that could benefit this country and people way more than paying for wars that are not our own.

@Moxie group

At the very very least tampons shouldn't be taxed as luxury products, or taxed at all.
Tampons and pads are a necessity. It will never be socially acceptable for women to bleed all over the place, and periods can't simply be stopped, so preventative measures against that bleeding should be free.

@evastardust groupRRAAAARRL

Yeah. Women who can't afford pads or tampons (or many of them) will be bleeding out all day, ruin their clothes, be covered in nasty dry blood, and if they only can afford very few tampons (because they're taxed so highly) are at risk for Toxic Shock Syndrome. Which is deadly.

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low key had no idea pads were the preferred item

@evastardust groupRRAAAARRL

The idea of sticking a tampon up there makes me very uncomfortable, and I'm scared that I would forget to take it out and get TSS. But I totally see why swimmers and such prefer them.

Deleted user

Actually tampons can make you ill with disease, my mom got some from wearing tampons, so she never buys them unless Brianna needs them. I don’t use tampons, I would be uncomfortable with them but that’s just me.

Deleted user

Once you use one for the first time, it's as easy as breathing. Honestly, they are magic.

Deleted user

I’d rather get stabbed with a knife then wear a tampon in my honest opinion.

@Moxie group

I would argue its actually once you get down the process of using one. Because going to school with a tampon that is not properly inserted hurts and is not fun or easy

Deleted user

It’s like putting a reed on a Clarinet and that took 4 years to learn correctly, I’m not doing that with something inside of me, plus it’s weird. It makes me cringe just thinking about it…

@amber_is_in_a_loop

Yeah. Women who can't afford pads or tampons (or many of them) will be bleeding out all day, ruin their clothes, be covered in nasty dry blood, and if they only can afford very few tampons (because they're taxed so highly) are at risk for Toxic Shock Syndrome. Which is deadly.

@evastardust groupRRAAAARRL

It really comes to this though. Why should other people be forced to pay for your needs?

People are forced to pay for things all the time. Why can't the money go towards helping women not bleed to death instead of even more military things?