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I think your test ideas are relatively good. But what would prevent a creep from getting through the screening? Also overpopulation isn't a thing. And passing a test doesn't mean you are good at the job.
http://www.firetown.com/2010/12/03/the-overpopulation-myth-the-entire-world-population-could-fit-into-the-state-of-texas/

It wouldn't be one written test though. There would be extensive psychological tests among other things. If it was created properly there woulc/could be a high chance of preventing offenders from access.

Over population is very much a thing in cities. Just because that person claims we can all fit into texas back in 2010 doesn't mean we can or should going into the future.

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And would it even be possible to get some kind of required birth control to everyone who didn't have a special permit to have/raise kids?

More than likely. Studies showed that most women would be 100% more willing to take birth control if it was free or more affordable. As it should be.
Schools are requiring vaccinations now for registration, they can easily just add necessary birth control to that. (For the appropriate age groups that is. I wouldn't expect a kindergartner to get it.)

@BrennaKadavsky

And would it even be possible to get some kind of required birth control to everyone who didn't have a special permit to have/raise kids?

More than likely. Studies showed that most women would be 100% more willing to take birth control if it was free or more affordable. As it should be.
Schools are requiring vaccinations now for registration, they can easily just add necessary birth control to that. (For the appropriate age groups that is. I wouldn't expect a kindergartner to get it.)

This is starting to sound like an excellent idea…

@Althalosian-is-the-father book

And would it even be possible to get some kind of required birth control to everyone who didn't have a special permit to have/raise kids?

More than likely. Studies showed that most women would be 100% more willing to take birth control if it was free or more affordable. As it should be.
Schools are requiring vaccinations now for registration, they can easily just add necessary birth control to that. (For the appropriate age groups that is. I wouldn't expect a kindergartner to get it.)

Why should birth control be free?

@RedTheLoveless

And would it even be possible to get some kind of required birth control to everyone who didn't have a special permit to have/raise kids?

More than likely. Studies showed that most women would be 100% more willing to take birth control if it was free or more affordable. As it should be.
Schools are requiring vaccinations now for registration, they can easily just add necessary birth control to that. (For the appropriate age groups that is. I wouldn't expect a kindergartner to get it.)

Why should birth control be free?

Same reasons condoms should be free. It's preventative.

Deleted user

Why should birth control be free?

Why shouldn't it be fee? Preventative healthcare should not be a privilege. If someone doesn't want to have children they should be able to take every measure to prevent it for free.

Deleted user

That's unrealistic on so many levels.

Flu shots are free. Why not birth control?

@Althalosian-is-the-father book

So you think stuff should be free because people don't control themselves? I think with that argument you could say that all things in stores should be free as people steal from there anyways.

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I believe I said that birth control should be free because preventative healthcare should not be a privilege.

@The-N-U-T-Cracker

If someone can't afford a specific lifestyle, they should maybe consider working on their budget instead of forcing others to pay for it…

Also, what separates vaccines from birth control is pretty simple:
It's possible to live a happy, healthy life without sex, but it's not possible to live a happy, healthy life without eating, drinking, socializing, or breathing.
Children can easily be prevented through other means, (cough ABSTINENCE cough) while most vaccine-preventable diseases can't. Humans need food, air, and water to live, you cannot simply stop breathing to prevent the measles.

Sex isn't necessary, so birth control shouldn't be. Breathing is different because you'd actually die without it.

@The-N-U-T-Cracker

Now, I'll admit, I don't know everything or really anything about how birth control works, and there could very easily be cases where it would be necessary in order to treat other, non-preventable health problems or something like that, and in those cases (if they exist, again, I have no knowledge here), I don't really have much of an opinion.

@RedTheLoveless

Now, I'll admit, I don't know everything or really anything about how birth control works, and there could very easily be cases where it would be necessary in order to treat other, non-preventable health problems or something like that, and in those cases (if they exist, again, I have no knowledge here), I don't really have much of an opinion.

Here, let me enlighten you a bit. Birth control is and has been used to treat other ailments besides "pregnancy". I'll give you a few common examples, some of which will come from my personal life experience.

Birth control is used to monitor and control periods. This can be extremely helpful–and in somecases, lifesaving–to girls who experience horrible cramps or excessive amounts of bleeding that incapacitate her or put her life at risk from exanguination(?spellcheck pls). This is especially helpful for girls who are anemic and are at a higher risk for health complications when it comes to bleeding.

Birth control also helps with regulating hormones. This affects me personally for two reasons. Reason one is that it helps keep my acne at a reasonable level. My face would look like a burnt pizza instead of how it looks now and I won'thave to deal with as much acne scarring. Reason two is that it helps me deal with my anxiety disorder, but on a biological stage. I would be much more unstable without this medication.

@evastardust groupRRAAAARRL

Pads and tampons are necessary, to both health and sanitation. It's not okay for a person to have to go without pads or tampons.

@evastardust groupRRAAAARRL

Idk if this is a hot take, but I don't think that people who can't afford them should have to walk around in underwear with their own blood in it.

@_sleeby_rat_

If someone can't afford a specific lifestyle, they should maybe consider working on their budget instead of forcing others to pay for it…

Also, what separates vaccines from birth control is pretty simple:
It's possible to live a happy, healthy life without sex, but it's not possible to live a happy, healthy life without eating, drinking, socializing, or breathing.
Children can easily be prevented through other means, (cough ABSTINENCE cough) while most vaccine-preventable diseases can't. Humans need food, air, and water to live, you cannot simply stop breathing to prevent the measles.

Sex isn't necessary, so birth control shouldn't be. Breathing is different because you'd actually die without it.

I feel it's important to note that things like STD's can be transmitted without sex. I had a family member who was stabbed by a guy with AIDS and got it from blood contact. And with all the damn tax money we put in to fight wars that aren't our own, I think the government can take maybe a small budget of tax money to make supplies like pads and birth control accessible for everyone, or at least make them cheaper. And rape victims shouldn't have a child forced on them because they're too poor to afford Plan B meds, or something of the like. (Sorry if I've got a weak argument atm, I'm very tired and just realized I haven't responded on this forum in like forever)

@_sleeby_rat_

And let me make it known that I do understand that tampons are pretty much necessary for life. But I don't think women deserve them without paying in some manner.

That lowkey is the same as saying that just because someone exists doesn't mean they deserve food? I mean I know you're a guy but it's not like someone who has periods can just stop them, and there's no way in hell anyone would enjoy having to suffer through blood constantly flowing from an unpleasant area for a week, especially if that person has heavy periods. Just that alone would make it so that person wouldn't be able to go to work for a week out of the month, or would ruin clothes with the blood, thus making them poorer because they have to replace clothes and aren't getting the cash from their job

@_sleeby_rat_

yeah, but it would help someone work if they had certain necessities provided to them to help give them a start in life. everyone should get a shot at living a decent life, and some people just need a little extra help, especially if they have diseases or disabilities

@Althalosian-is-the-father book

If someone can't afford a specific lifestyle, they should maybe consider working on their budget instead of forcing others to pay for it…

Also, what separates vaccines from birth control is pretty simple:
It's possible to live a happy, healthy life without sex, but it's not possible to live a happy, healthy life without eating, drinking, socializing, or breathing.
Children can easily be prevented through other means, (cough ABSTINENCE cough) while most vaccine-preventable diseases can't. Humans need food, air, and water to live, you cannot simply stop breathing to prevent the measles.

Sex isn't necessary, so birth control shouldn't be. Breathing is different because you'd actually die without it.

I feel it's important to note that things like STD's can be transmitted without sex. I had a family member who was stabbed by a guy with AIDS and got it from blood contact. And with all the damn tax money we put in to fight wars that aren't our own, I think the government can take maybe a small budget of tax money to make supplies like pads and birth control accessible for everyone, or at least make them cheaper. And rape victims shouldn't have a child forced on them because they're too poor to afford Plan B meds, or something of the like. (Sorry if I've got a weak argument atm, I'm very tired and just realized I haven't responded on this forum in like forever)

Good thing to point out. But the only reason war is in there is because it's necessary. Is that how we fight war? Not really and that sucks. And rape is horrible. But let's not get into that as we can do abortion another day.