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Started March 14, 2019 by Deleted user

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If you want to see how it went, it started around page 5 and ended somewhere around page 14. I'm too lazy to look for the actual numbers

wow

you missed out

;.;
but… i had good arguments ready

I still have arguments after all that researching, but we've moved on, unfortunately. Not to mention I'm still researching the current one so don't change the topic to something that interesting yet

;.;
but… i had good arguments ready

if your arguments include taking away a women's right to her body then I really do not want to hear it.

_{I really don't see how not being allowed to kill another human is taking away a woman's right to her body, but whatever. Moving on…}

And people get furious and blame SWM instead of whoever's fault it is.

Who's fault is it then? Immigrants for being born in a different country? Jewish citizens peacefully worshiping? Women for being born without a dick?

When is it not their fault???
African American men getting gunned down by Straight White Male cops who get little to no jail time.
Women's rights to their own bodies getting put down in congress by Straight White Male politicians.

Just some prime examples.

Perfect example of the attitude. I mean, sure, it's not their fault. And it is true that there is some hard evidence in a few cases. But neither did Jews ruin the German economy . (I apologize for using that as an example but it works.)

_{I really don't see how not being allowed to kill another human is taking away a woman's right to her body, but whatever. Moving on…}

You can refer back to the pages where I explained it thoroughly then. And think about how it would suck if you didn't have control over what happened inside you.

And people get furious and blame SWM instead of whoever's fault it is.

Who's fault is it then? Immigrants for being born in a different country? Jewish citizens peacefully worshiping? Women for being born without a dick?

When is it not their fault???
African American men getting gunned down by Straight White Male cops who get little to no jail time.
Women's rights to their own bodies getting put down in congress by Straight White Male politicians.

Just some prime examples.

Perfect example of the attitude. I mean, sure, it's not their fault. And it is true that there is some hard evidence in a few cases. But neither did Jews ruin the German economy . (I apologize for using that as an example but it works.)

….How does that example work? Hitler was a Straight White Male that murdered 6 million people because he didn't like them. He is to blame.

_{It would suck, but that doesn't mean I could just kill the person, that's cruel and messed up…}

Perfect example of the attitude. I mean, sure, it's not their fault. And it is true that there is some hard evidence in a few cases. But neither did Jews ruin the German economy . (I apologize for using that as an example but it works.)

….How does that example work? Hitler was a Straight White Male that murdered 6 million people because he didn't like them. He is to blame.

It happens against the nonSWMs. Ergo, it's their fault.
We are in poverty the Jews (hypothetically) are not. Ergo, it's their fault.

An 11 year old black boy was shot and killed for having a water gun, but those poor Straight White Males, am I right?

-_-

Yes Other people have it way worse. We know.

-_-

Yes Other people have it way worse. We know.

Which is exactly why all of the whining you're doing is irrelevant and pointless.

Perfect example of the attitude. I mean, sure, it's not their fault. And it is true that there is some hard evidence in a few cases. But neither did Jews ruin the German economy . (I apologize for using that as an example but it works.)

….How does that example work? Hitler was a Straight White Male that murdered 6 million people because he didn't like them. He is to blame.

It happens against the nonSWMs. Ergo, it's their fault.
We are in poverty the Jews (hypothetically) are not. Ergo, it's their fault.

What?
You…you are blaming the Jews for the Holocaust….instead of the SWM that killed them….?

Because others have it worse the problem should not be addressed? Are you sure you want to argue that?

Perfect example of the attitude. I mean, sure, it's not their fault. And it is true that there is some hard evidence in a few cases. But neither did Jews ruin the German economy . (I apologize for using that as an example but it works.)

….How does that example work? Hitler was a Straight White Male that murdered 6 million people because he didn't like them. He is to blame.

It happens against the nonSWMs. Ergo, it's their fault.
We are in poverty the Jews (hypothetically) are not. Ergo, it's their fault.

What?
You…you are blaming the Jews for the Holocaust….instead of the SWM that killed them….?

Um, No.

But obviously you see that blaming the Jews is both wrong and illogical. I say the same with those who blame the SWMs for oppression against (insert here).

_{It would suck, but that doesn't mean I could just kill the person, that's cruel and messed up…}

As I also explained before, it's a humane process that I have witnessed myself. It's not cruel. If you did not have the right to control your body you wouldn't be so happy sunshine about the reason for that. Read the damn argument. I'm over this. When you have a proper argument other than 'It hurts my feelings', then we'll talk.

It's not just hurting my feelings, it's hurting the lives of other people, but again, we're over this.

But obviously you see that blaming the Jews is both wrong and illogical. I say the same with those who blame the SWMs for oppression against (insert here).

But why?? SWMs are to blame for the oppression they cause over others. It's not illogical to place blame where blame is due.
Africans were not richer, did not have better lives than the SWMs of the United States during slavery, and yet they were put down and considered wrong simply because of the color of their skin. So how was it the African's fault that they were oppressed?

But obviously you see that blaming the Jews is both wrong and illogical. I say the same with those who blame the SWMs for oppression against (insert here).

But oppression against people who aren't straight, white, or male is literally caused by SWMs…..

Because others have it worse the problem should not be addressed? Are you sure you want to argue that?

No, when you show me an actual issue that SWMs have that isn't 'we get made fun of sometimes :(', we can argue that.

Because others have it worse the problem should not be addressed? Are you sure you want to argue that?

No, when you show me an actual issue that SWMs have that isn't 'we get made fun of sometimes :(', we can argue that.

I know many people in my school who have been physically harmed for being white. Their attackers even stated this.

_{It would suck, but that doesn't mean I could just kill the person, that's cruel and messed up…}

As I also explained before, it's a humane process that I have witnessed myself. It's not cruel. If you did not have the right to control your body you wouldn't be so happy sunshine about the reason for that. Read the damn argument. I'm over this. When you have a proper argument other than 'It hurts my feelings', then we'll talk.

How bout: birthing is a completely natural process that allows humans to exist. Also, there are truely detrimental things that happen in our bodies that we do not control simply because we can, due to the fact it is nature.

But obviously you see that blaming the Jews is both wrong and illogical. I say the same with those who blame the SWMs for oppression against (insert here).

But why?? SWMs are to blame for the oppression they cause over others. It's not illogical to place blame where blame is due.
Africans were not richer, did not have better lives than the SWMs of the United States during slavery, and yet they were put down and considered wrong simply because of the color of their skin. So how was it the African's fault that they were oppressed?

Never said it was.

"SWMs are to blame for the oppression they cause over others." Well yes, but you can't use that as a definite argument if that is the thing we are arguing about.

Now about the slavery. There were black slave owners. Also many of the abolitionists were SWMs. If there are exceptions then it is a Generalization not a true statement.

Let's get a little personal here. I would be counted among the SWMs. I disagree but others wouldn't care about that. How is oppression my fault?

Because others have it worse the problem should not be addressed? Are you sure you want to argue that?

No, when you show me an actual issue that SWMs have that isn't 'we get made fun of sometimes :(', we can argue that.

I know many people in my school who have been physically harmed for being white. Their attackers even stated this.

Thank you!

Because others have it worse the problem should not be addressed? Are you sure you want to argue that?

No, when you show me an actual issue that SWMs have that isn't 'we get made fun of sometimes :(', we can argue that.

I know many people in my school who have been physically harmed for being white. Their attackers even stated this.

Thank you!

And do you know how many people have been killed for being female, POC, or LGBTQA+?
Read The Hate U Give, watch The Laramie Project, and look at articles about women who were killed by their boyfriends, or by SWM, and say that that's not far worse.

Because others have it worse the problem should not be addressed? Are you sure you want to argue that?

No, when you show me an actual issue that SWMs have that isn't 'we get made fun of sometimes :(', we can argue that.

I know many people in my school who have been physically harmed for being white. Their attackers even stated this.

Thank you!

And do you know how many people have been killed for being female, POC, or LGBTQA+?
Read The Hate U Give, watch The Laramie Project, and look at articles about women who were killed by their boyfriends, or by SWM, and say that that's not far worse.

You are ignoring what I have said! I know. Others have it way worse. We agree on that. You are moving the goalpost. You just said give real evidence, then it might be a legitimate problem that needs to be addressed. As soon as decent evidence is shown you fall back on what we have already dealt with like I have not already plainly stated an answer.