forum Don't Be Suspicious

Started March 01, 2019 by Deleted user

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I'm fully aware that my opinion could be wrong, but unless God himself comes and tells me, I'm sticking with it.

Lmao ignorant much

Well Nutella summed it up pretty well. I think it's wrong and a perversion of what is right. However I will not think less of you because of it. (Actually when I entered the forums I did so with the intent of learning more of lgbt peeps in order to expand my knowledge and view them as people instead of a group, which has been wildly successful. I also have made quite a few friendly relationships with gay etc people here, most notably Eris, along with Shuri.) I do not think you should respect the beliefs I hold. Though I do think you should respect my right to have such beliefs. To sum up, I do not hate anyone and am open to friendship with someone no matter what they believe. (Hey, it's what Jesus would do.)
Also. I am not homophobic. Pretty much no one is. Because that is a stupid word. Technically it means "fear of the same" which besides not making much sense, has nothing to do with being gay etc.
Now if it is taken to mean haters of lgbt people that is also incorrect. Most people who disagree with such things bear no hatred towards you.
If you take it in the way that people who disagree with such things fear such things, besides being incorrect in the sense of language, you are still mostly incorrect as rather few people fear such things. (Though there are some.) So it is a misrepresentation to use that word.

Okay. Dudes. I have explained the whole gay and shellfish etc. argument too many times in the past to feel up to typing it now. Here is a video that explains better than I might.

You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination. (Leviticus 18:22)

If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them. (Leviticus 20:13)

These are the quotes in question just in case anyone was wondering the wording. Please wait a moment for me to destroy the fuck out of them

Jesus didn't say anything about being gay, the only time it was mentioned was in Leviticus which was negated by Jesus dying on the cross. So if you say that being gay is a sin, you're saying that Jesus's death accomplished nothing, which is fully inaccurate.

i dont get it

God told Moses a bunch of laws the Isrealites had to follow in order to get into heaven. If they broke any of these laws, they had to sacrafice an animal. When Jesus died on the cross, these laws no longer mattered because Jesus died for our sins. One of these was apparently "man lying with another man". Since Jesus died however, we no longer have to follow them and saying we still do is disrespectful

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Just because Jesus died for our sins doesn't mean we should continue committing them, that's insane and quite insulting in my opinion. We may not have to sacrifice living creatures in his name anymore but that doesn't mean we can go around murdering three-year-olds with chainsaws and expect God to be like "oh, it's okay, I died and came back to life so, therefore, that's not an evil thing to do anymore. Straight to heaven you go!" without us having to feel truly sorry or do some sort of penance first.

doesn’t change my view through experience. If your family is threatening physical harm for being gay? Yeah, that’s hate. I’ll probably never be able to right the genetic inconsistencies between my brain chemistry and the way my body turned out because of homophobia and hatred. So excuse me for not liking people who want to deny me basic rights and dehumanize me

Dom, that's one of the most ignorant things I've ever seen you say. The only thing I agree with is the fact that you have a right to have your own beliefs, but that I do not have to respect them.
Just because homophobia has the word phobia in it, doesn't mean it's a fear of gay people. Words can evolve. It happens in all languages.
I'm going to say this once.
People hate gay people, and if you disagree, you are extremely ignorant and blind.
Do yourself a favor and read up on LGBT violence in the world. People get assaulted. Raped. Killed. Don't try to tell me hatred toward gay people doesn't exist because I've experienced it. Take it from a bisexual person who's been called nasty words, attacked, and threatened.

:P Dom I'm not gay. I'm bisexual.

Well, I think that’s a little bit sad, and I wholeheartedly disagree, but I’ll respect your opinion as long as you respect me? -a gay

Well thank you. I attempt to judge people based off their character and not the things I consider sins as I realize that others do not share my views. So I will not think any less of you because of your affiliation with things I disagree with. In fact, from a nonreligious perspective, I understand and respect what they are trying to do as spreading love and acceptance.

:P Dom I'm not gay. I'm bisexual.

so is shuri, but I've noticed that some people view anything that's not straight as gay. Yesterday me and my dad got in an argument bc he said "there's only gay and normal, nothing else"

Dom, that's one of the most ignorant things I've ever seen you say. The only thing I agree with is the fact that you have a right to have your own beliefs, but that I do not have to respect them.
Just because homophobia has the word phobia in it, doesn't mean it's a fear of gay people. Words can evolve. It happens in all languages.
I'm going to say this once.
People hate gay people, and if you disagree, you are extremely ignorant and blind.
Do yourself a favor and read up on LGBT violence in the world. People get assaulted. Raped. Killed. Don't try to tell me hatred toward gay people doesn't exist because I've experienced it. Take it from a bisexual person who's been called nasty words, attacked, and threatened.

He's aware, and we're both against that violence. I think what he meant was the word 'homophobic' is really stupid because no one's afraid of LGBT people. They're hateful towards them, but not afraid.

You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination. (Leviticus 18:22)

If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them. (Leviticus 20:13)

These are the quotes in question just in case anyone was wondering the wording. Please wait a moment for me to destroy the fuck out of them

I grinned while laughing. (Another facial anomaly.)

:P Dom I'm not gay. I'm bisexual.

so is shuri, but I've noticed that some people view anything that's not straight as gay. Yesterday me and my dad got in an argument bc he said "there's only gay and normal, nothing else"

Yeah I know. But it takes a while to type it all out so I don't.

Dom, that's one of the most ignorant things I've ever seen you say. The only thing I agree with is the fact that you have a right to have your own beliefs, but that I do not have to respect them.
Just because homophobia has the word phobia in it, doesn't mean it's a fear of gay people. Words can evolve. It happens in all languages.
I'm going to say this once.
People hate gay people, and if you disagree, you are extremely ignorant and blind.
Do yourself a favor and read up on LGBT violence in the world. People get assaulted. Raped. Killed. Don't try to tell me hatred toward gay people doesn't exist because I've experienced it. Take it from a bisexual person who's been called nasty words, attacked, and threatened.

He's aware, and we're both against that violence. I think what he meant was the word 'homophobic' is really stupid because no one's afraid of LGBT people. They're hateful towards them, but not afraid.

Ella.
Read my fucking response before you open your mouth.

I find it ironic that you can link a youtube video but you can’t type out the word “bisexual”
Sorry I know that’s not helpful at all, but it’s just an observation

Dom, that's one of the most ignorant things I've ever seen you say. The only thing I agree with is the fact that you have a right to have your own beliefs, but that I do not have to respect them.
Just because homophobia has the word phobia in it, doesn't mean it's a fear of gay people. Words can evolve. It happens in all languages.
I'm going to say this once.
People hate gay people, and if you disagree, you are extremely ignorant and blind.
Do yourself a favor and read up on LGBT violence in the world. People get assaulted. Raped. Killed. Don't try to tell me hatred toward gay people doesn't exist because I've experienced it. Take it from a bisexual person who's been called nasty words, attacked, and threatened.

He's aware, and we're both against that violence. I think what he meant was the word 'homophobic' is really stupid because no one's afraid of LGBT people. They're hateful towards them, but not afraid.

Now if it is taken to mean haters of lgbt people that is also incorrect. Most people who disagree with such things bear no hatred towards you.

Dom, that's one of the most ignorant things I've ever seen you say. The only thing I agree with is the fact that you have a right to have your own beliefs, but that I do not have to respect them.
Just because homophobia has the word phobia in it, doesn't mean it's a fear of gay people. Words can evolve. It happens in all languages.
I'm going to say this once.
People hate gay people, and if you disagree, you are extremely ignorant and blind.
Do yourself a favor and read up on LGBT violence in the world. People get assaulted. Raped. Killed. Don't try to tell me hatred toward gay people doesn't exist because I've experienced it. Take it from a bisexual person who's been called nasty words, attacked, and threatened.

He's aware, and we're both against that violence. I think what he meant was the word 'homophobic' is really stupid because no one's afraid of LGBT people. They're hateful towards them, but not afraid.

And many people (while not denying the hate exists) do not hate lgtb people and merely disagree with them. And then slurs like "homophobe" are slung at the that are not accurate.

Homophobe is not a slur. It has never been used to oppress someone.

"man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination" (mistranslation aside)

But let's think for a moment. Gay men are attracted to men, not to women so If a gay man were to sleep/lay beside a woman there would be no sexual lust/attraction/action/etc. But if he were to 'lay' with another man there certainly would be.

My point being a gay man would NOT lay with a man as he would a woman. So this statement would be false. The same would be for bisexual men. The sexual act itself is different. The Love between them is not the same as it would be with a woman.

I'd also like to point out that they say nothing, nothing about gay/bisexual women. So technically. I'm not sinning. :P

Uhhhhhh yeah that’s not a slur buddy

You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination. (Leviticus 18:22)

If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them. (Leviticus 20:13)

These are the quotes in question just in case anyone was wondering the wording. Please wait a moment for me to destroy the fuck out of them

I grinned while laughing. (Another facial anomaly.)

Eris creates a damn miracle…. Am I a god?

The fact that somebody is gay has nothing to do with you.

This is the most overlooked statement in the history of modern humanity.

And politically I support them. (Like I think it's stupid for them not to have legal marriage.) So long as I am not forced to do anything I don't want to do for a group I don't support. #Libertarian

You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination. (Leviticus 18:22)

If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them. (Leviticus 20:13)

These are the quotes in question just in case anyone was wondering the wording. Please wait a moment for me to destroy the fuck out of them

I grinned while laughing. (Another facial anomaly.)

Eris creates a damn miracle…. Am I a god?

Of course. We discussed this. You are the Goddess of Word Vomit and I am The Great Trope Breaker.

I'd also like to point out that they say nothing, nothing about gay/bisexual women. So technically. I'm not sinning. :P

Loving that technicality.

Homophobe is not a slur. It has never been used to oppress someone.

Ha. Ha. Ha.

Explain

Back from research.

"an insinuation or allegation about someone that is likely to insult them or damage their reputation."

Hmm. Sounds like a slur to me.

You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination. (Leviticus 18:22)

If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them. (Leviticus 20:13)

These are the quotes in question just in case anyone was wondering the wording. Please wait a moment for me to destroy the fuck out of them

This could also mean straight men shouldn't lay with men of they're not gay
It could mean a lot of things

Hey, Dom! I'm curious about how homophobe has ever, in the history of the word, been used to oppress someone!

Back from research.

"an insinuation or allegation about someone that is likely to insult them or damage their reputation."

Hmm. Sounds like a slur to me.

Your wording insinuates this is the definition of homophobe. It’s not, it’s the definition of slur. Don’t do that

And that’s not why people call homophobic people homophobes