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Started March 01, 2019 by Deleted user

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hey bishes
i dont have anything against anyone in this chat
just people in general
so

i hate , and i mean raging burning hatred, when older people say that LGBTQ+ people are "sick" or "not right"
like
what

You called? Wanna chat?

hm?

Wassup? I'm one of those dudes you might have a raging burning hatred against. I think it's messed up to be gay etc. But I always think talking things out has a good chance for leading to understanding and respect.

This is the rudeness chat so I'm just going to speak my mind here
You're not going into much detail on your opinion here but if you're the kind of person who would treat a person unfairly just because of their sexuality, seriously fuck off you homophobic asshole
Even if you're not going to treat them unfairly, why do you care? The fact that somebody is gay has nothing to do with you.

Preach

The fact that somebody is gay has nothing to do with you.

This is the most overlooked statement in the history of modern humanity.

I second Eris' statement to the edges of space and back.

Well anyways, back to Dom's opinion… mentally prepares for the consequences of saying this in a chat made for drama

I agree with him.

Yeah, it might be wrong, and yes, my main excuse for it is the Bible. I believe that being sexually attracted to your own gender is extremely sinful/lustful/messed up and I'd rather be known as a "Homophobic Bigoted Christian A–hat" than risk a life of eternal torment.
However, you know what else is considered sinful in the Bible? Judgment, hatred, wrath, lack of compassion, an unforgiving heart… Etc. Which is why I will never see anyone as any less of a person for being gay, no matter how wrong I think it is. You're still humans no matter how sinful, and you deserve to be treated equally. I've done some things in the past that I would consider messed up, a lot of people have, actually, It's a part of being human.

Also I have a question
How do I politely tell somebody to fuck off if they're my friend? This guy I know is cool and all but I'm currently exhausted and want him to leave me alone (he doesn't shut up sometimes and I'm actually about to snap at him) but I don't want to upset him

Ugh.

Okay, I just needed to pop in and say a few things. Number one, the idea that God exists is an amazing idea, and it's not something that anyone really understands completely. But nobody understands the big bang theory completely either, and to me, that is more ridiculous. Do you really mean to tell me that if you saw a house, you would have to believe that someone built it, but the earth can just come into existence? The earth is a billion times more complicated. Thing in nature are so complex and precise, that I find it hard to believe that a god doesn't exist. Just saying. But I totally respect your opinion if you believe otherwise.

Jesus didn't say anything about being gay, the only time it was mentioned was in Leviticus which was negated by Jesus dying on the cross. So if you say that being gay is a sin, you're saying that Jesus's death accomplished nothing, which is fully inaccurate.

Well anyways, back to Dom's opinion… mentally prepares for the consequences of saying this in a chat made for drama

I agree with him.

Yeah, it might be wrong, and yes, my main excuse for it is the Bible. I believe that being sexually attracted to your own gender is extremely sinful/lustful/messed up and I'd rather be known as a "Homophobic Bigoted Christian A–hat" than risk a life of eternal torment.
However, you know what else is considered sinful in the Bible? Judgment, hatred, wrath, lack of compassion, an unforgiving heart… Etc. Which is why I will never see anyone as any less of a person for being gay, no matter how wrong I think it is. You're still humans no matter how sinful, and you deserve to be treated equally. I've done some things in the past that I would consider messed up, a lot of people have, actually, It's a part of being human.

this. you explained it perfectly.

Okay, I just needed to pop in and say a few things. Number one, the idea that God exists is an amazing idea, and it's not something that anyone really understands completely. But nobody understands the big bang theory completely either, and to me, that is more ridiculous. Do you really mean to tell me that if you saw a house, you would have to believe that someone built it, but the earth can just come into existence? The earth is a billion times more complicated. Thing in nature are so complex and precise, that I find it hard to believe that a god doesn't exist. Just saying. But I totally respect your opinion if you believe otherwise.

Agreed.

Well anyways, back to Dom's opinion… mentally prepares for the consequences of saying this in a chat made for drama

I agree with him.

Yeah, it might be wrong, and yes, my main excuse for it is the Bible. I believe that being sexually attracted to your own gender is extremely sinful/lustful/messed up and I'd rather be known as a "Homophobic Bigoted Christian A–hat" than risk a life of eternal torment.
However, you know what else is considered sinful in the Bible? Judgment, hatred, wrath, lack of compassion, an unforgiving heart… Etc. Which is why I will never see anyone as any less of a person for being gay, no matter how wrong I think it is. You're still humans no matter how sinful, and you deserve to be treated equally. I've done some things in the past that I would consider messed up, a lot of people have, actually, It's a part of being human.

Somewhat understandable, but I still don't like it

Jesus didn't say anything about being gay, the only time it was mentioned was in Leviticus which was negated by Jesus dying on the cross. So if you say that being gay is a sin, you're saying that Jesus's death accomplished nothing, which is fully inaccurate.

I'm pretty sure this is more accurate than that of Ella's statement.

Also like, back to Eris, WHO THE FUCK SHOULD CARE. IT'S NOT THEIR BUSINESS

Jesus didn't say anything about being gay, the only time it was mentioned was in Leviticus which was negated by Jesus dying on the cross. So if you say that being gay is a sin, you're saying that Jesus's death accomplished nothing, which is fully inaccurate.

I'm going to add to the drama and probably make some Christians angry

Being gay is not a sin. A lot of people who say it is are just using it as an excuse to cover up their irrational disgust of gay people. (I'm not saying all people are like that, just to be clear)

Alright, the homophobia bit in the Bible? Purposely misinterpreted and then made into newer copies as a “real” translation! At the time Jesus was around, male prostitution, specifically as church servants were very common, particularly those younger than 15. The piece people say is anti-homosexuality stems from the essential context of the passage being about a disciple sending a letter to a Greek church saying underaged prostitution is bad being omitted and later amalgamated into saying the gays are bad. So sorry hon, can’t use the Bible to make excuses for homophobia :)

Jesus didn't say anything about being gay, the only time it was mentioned was in Leviticus which was negated by Jesus dying on the cross. So if you say that being gay is a sin, you're saying that Jesus's death accomplished nothing, which is fully inaccurate.

I'm pretty sure this is more accurate than that of Ella's statement.

Also like, back to Eris, WHO THE FUCK SHOULD CARE. IT'S NOT THEIR BUSINESS

And also the 'man shall not sleep with man' passage people site is mistranslated. It was originally 'man shall not sleep with boy', speaking against pedophilia and the purchasing/child grooming of young boys to sleep with.

Jesus didn't say anything about being gay, the only time it was mentioned was in Leviticus which was negated by Jesus dying on the cross. So if you say that being gay is a sin, you're saying that Jesus's death accomplished nothing, which is fully inaccurate.

I'm pretty sure this is more accurate than that of Ella's statement.

Also like, back to Eris, WHO THE FUCK SHOULD CARE. IT'S NOT THEIR BUSINESS

And also the 'man shall not sleep with man' passage people site is mistranslated. It was originally 'man shall not sleep with boy', speaking against pedophilia and the purchasing/child grooming of young boys to sleep with.

(See Octane's last comment)

Jesus didn't say anything about being gay, the only time it was mentioned was in Leviticus which was negated by Jesus dying on the cross. So if you say that being gay is a sin, you're saying that Jesus's death accomplished nothing, which is fully inaccurate.

I'm going to add to the drama and probably make some Christians angry

Being gay is not a sin. A lot of people who say it is are just using it as an excuse to cover up their irrational disgust of gay people. (I'm not saying all people are like that, just to be clear)

Yeah, it's literally not a sin at all. King David was bi, read the passages about him and Jonathan. Jesus never had anyone at all he was into. Jesus also says that above all else, you are to love your neighbors, and not look down on love.

Another thing:

They bible is old as fuck and a LOT of things were probably changed and mistranslated. Unfortunately we don't have God himself to clear up any misunderstandings right now, so the bible is kind of an iffy thing to follow strictly.

Exactly. The Catholic Church specifically is famous for misconstruing bits of the Bible to fit their own purposes, mainly to manipulate the public into keeping its power and exercising its power as an ultimate authority “in the name of god” through divine right of kings, something they started and Protestants kept, still seem in some forms today

Jesus didn't say anything about being gay, the only time it was mentioned was in Leviticus which was negated by Jesus dying on the cross. So if you say that being gay is a sin, you're saying that Jesus's death accomplished nothing, which is fully inaccurate.

i dont get it

And also with that logic eating shellfish is a sin, wearing clothing with mixed fabrics is a sin, planting two different kinds of seed in the same field is a sin, cutting your hair at the sides or clipping off the edges of your beard is a sin.

I'm fully aware that my opinion could be wrong, but unless God himself comes and tells me, I'm sticking with it.

There are only a few teachings of the bible that I follow, or at least try to follow, and they all revolve around how I treat others (Which is always with respect and kindness). I don't follow any teachings about what my lifestyle should be like because it's way too old fashioned and anything could've been mistranslated.

One thing a lot of people miss though is that the bible is to be taken in principle.

Jesus didn't say anything about being gay, the only time it was mentioned was in Leviticus which was negated by Jesus dying on the cross. So if you say that being gay is a sin, you're saying that Jesus's death accomplished nothing, which is fully inaccurate.

i dont get it

God told Moses a bunch of laws the Isrealites had to follow in order to get into heaven. If they broke any of these laws, they had to sacrafice an animal. When Jesus died on the cross, these laws no longer mattered because Jesus died for our sins. One of these was apparently "man lying with another man". Since Jesus died however, we no longer have to follow them and saying we still do is disrespectful

And also with that logic eating shellfish is a sin, wearing clothing with mixed fabrics is a sin, planting two different kinds of seed in the same field is a sin, cutting your hair at the sides or clipping off the edges of your beard is a sin.

Exactly. Which makes me 99% certain that you, Ella, have sinned. But I'm going to make the assumption that you don't view the mixed clothing sin as important and will disregard it because it's too old fashioned. Correct me if I'm wrong. Tell me you view that sin as of the same importance and you will never again wear mixed fabrics.