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Started March 14, 2019 by Deleted user

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Exactly! Kill everyone.

Truth be told: We should.
Start all over. Clean slate.

I'm game.

I'm not

Why not

I'm interested in what Dom has to say to that.

God has already gone a few rounds with humanity. Why not again?

ha… interesting

I saw someone post about conservative versus liberal. I would have to say that conservativism makes more sense although in the end it’s up to the individual

Sometimes death is a mercy for those who will not experience life.

Umm… I would like you to think about what you just said.

Why? My statement makes sense. If someone is going to be hooked up to tubes their entire life, in pain, invalid, and stuck in a hospital room with zero chance of being able to experience what life is outside of that room….death would be a mercy.

I guess if you mean experience life as in have life like everyone else it is another matter. I read it as living. ^ I don't think you have the authority to say that. What do you know of being in that position? But if I accept what you say, do you agree that that person's death should only be decided by that person?

I'm interested in what Dom has to say to that.

God has already gone a few rounds with humanity. Why not again?

Well I was being sarcastic with the kill everyone, but I think if you follow the "kill the wounded" argument to it's natural end you find you can kill a lot of people.

My grandpa enjoys being alive, thank you

Well don't get too salty, but good example.

Why? My statement makes sense. If someone is going to be hooked up to tubes their entire life, in pain, invalid, and stuck in a hospital room with zero chance of being able to experience what life is outside of that room….death would be a mercy.

I guess if you mean experience life as in have life like everyone else it is another matter. I read it as living. ^ I don't think you have the authority to say that. What do you know of being in that position? But if I accept what you say, do you agree that that person's death should only be decided by that person?

There is a difference between Life and Existing. Which is the point that I'm arguing.
Why don't I have the authority to state my opinion that death is a mercy to lose who suffer horribly? I do know what it is like to be stuck in a hospital bed unable to move, or tell someone that I was in pain, or lonely, or anything, and it is truly horrible. Luckily I was able to recover, but there are people that do not and they should be given the option and if they are incapable of making that decision the family should be able to make that decision on their behalf.

Death is not a horrid thing. It's nothing to be afraid of. From death comes wonderful things. Organs are donated to save other lives, bodies donated to research teach the next generation of doctors, or help cure diseases, someone who was suffering is free. It should be celebrated.

My grandpa enjoys being alive, thank you

No one was talking about your grandfather, ella…

My grandpa enjoys being alive, thank you

No one was talking about your grandfather, Ella…

I know you weren't, but by the logic of some of the arguments being made, he should've died 50+ years ago.

That's not what I'm arguing. I'm not saying that these people/babies should die. I'm saying that death is a mercy to those in pain/suffering/invalid/etc. The option should be considered and available to those people.

I found some controversial unpopular opinions from the internet (NOTE: THESE ARE NOT MINE. Please don't call me a psychopath, I disagree with quite a few of these.)

• Binge-watching TV is not fun and quite difficult.

• Wikipedia is a reliable source for information and if you don’t think so, you know nothing about Wikipedia.

• Religion should not be taught to children.

• Having kids shouldn't be expected from people.

• Eating cereal with water is better than with milk

• Not being attracted to someone who is fat is ok. Stop protecting fat people. They’re not special. They’re unhealthy.

Again, those were not mine. I'm not a monster, I eat my cereal with whole milk just like every normal human out there, just figured this place could use more subject ideas.

Now, a few of mine:

• Skim milk is basically cow water

And that's all.

(You can keep arguing the current debate if you want, it just doesn't appear to be going anywhere so I figured I'd throw these in here.)

Skim milk is cow water

I agree with the one about fat people. I'm fat, and it is causing me serious health problems.

Even better, skim milk is anti-vegan water
_{(it's a joke, don't kill me)}

Even better, skim milk is anti-vegan water
_{(it's a joke, don't kill me)}

Perfect

not really a fan of any of those topics. (shrugs)

Are y’all pro-PETA? personally, i'm against them because while they have the right ideals, they go about it all wrong. and they’re super pretentious.

PETA ruined Meat Boy for me. And Mario. And Cooking Mama.

PETA is evil.

Mario???
also, the way they handle shelter pets is disgusting. they’d rather post pictures of cow boobs than …oh i don’t know…make an actual difference

I have five Instagram accounts.

I’m blocked on all of the main peta Instagram accounts, even if I tried to point out that while humans can sustain herbivorous diets, we are originally omnivores. I was even being polite.

Let’s just say I’m not a huge fan.

I’m all for treating animals as living creatures with their own rights, but after a few specific events involving PETA, Instagram, and my sister, I can’t say I support them. (I’ll go into detail once I’m on my computer)

I think I've advertised it a million times to the point where everyone knows, but just in case, my sister, Anna, has an Instagram with a pretty decent sized following.
Her account focuses on her "fiber farm" consisting of English Angora rabbits, Pygora goats, and the occasional guard cat or baby chicken.
What is this "fiber farm", you may ask? Well, it's basically a farm of animals raised mostly for their high-quality, luxury floof, but in her case, they're also for showing in competitions (or at least the rabbits are). In this farm, they're loved, fed, properly cared for, and live very happy lives, in fact, Anna works her rear end off every day to make sure all of them are healthy. How does she obtain the floof? She takes a special pair of clippers and uses it to slowly, carefully, trim it off. This hurts the rabbit/goat about as much as it hurts you to get a haircut- It doesn't at all unless something's done severely wrong, which almost never happens.

PETA, however, refuses to believe that shearing animals for their wool/fiber/floof is a humane thing to do, spreading lies and misrepresenting all those who do so. Their most well-known case of this would probably be this image, depicting a man holding this violent, exaggerated, plastic replica of what they want you to believe a sheared sheep looks like.

Just so you know how messed up that is, here's a realphoto of a sheared sheep.

So, as you may have expected, her account gets a ton of crap for "promoting animal abuse", at one point (if I'm remembering correctly) she was almost banned for it. She's since uploaded multiple videos of the shearing process, and the hate is dying down quite a bit, but that doesn't justify what PETA's been doing.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BjiInkBhj_-/

They make it seem like shearing the rabbits is a cruel, horrible thing when in reality, it would be cruel to not shear them because the rabbits are incredibly heat-sensitive and, considering how dense their wool is, they'd probably die a painful death once the weather gets too warm. They're trying to manipulate people and put fiber farms like hers out of business and that absolutely ticks me off.

And let's not even mention the average percentage of animals they kill every year…

(Extra evidence)

Religion should not be taught to children.
in agreement because children are easily indoctrinated and once you teach them something like that they often continue for the rest of their life without even considering the other point of view

I was taught religion as a child, and I’ve ….completely rejected it.Catholicism is not for me. but if someone wants to share their religion with their kids, then they should be able to. If the kid doesn’t want it later, then that’s fine.

Religion should not be taught to children.
in agreement because children are easily indoctrinated and once you teach them something like that they often continue for the rest of their life without even considering the other point of view

If this is so, how is it possible for the people of Gen X to have turned away from their parents' (or parent's) religion? Most Gen Xers were raised in Christian families, but later rejected this and became "none affiliated."

I would have to disagree. If the parents truly believe that in order to save their child from hell they must teach them about their religion, we should probably let them. If you don’t teach the child anything, they most likely won’t try to form their own opinions, they’ll just end up being Atheists/Agnostic for the rest of their lives.

My parents are Catholic. I’m Catholic. Yes, they taught me to be this way, but that doesn’t mean these aren’t my true beliefs. I’ve seen what I believe to be evidence that there is, indeed, a god watching over us, a life after death, and a way to be truly happy. I wouldn’t have seen these things if no one ever taught me, and I’m extremely thankful that I was raised this way.