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shrugs I don't really have an opinion on this. The transpeople that I know insist that it isn't a mental disorder.

I know I, for one can't, say otherwise because I don't know. I'm just a Bisexual Shark™.

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I know from an economical standpoint, it’s better for trans people if being trans is labeled a mental illness, because they can get the help they need possibly under insurance

AbbyAlways

I know from an economical standpoint, it’s better for trans people if being trans is labeled a mental illness, because they can get the help they need possibly under insurance

That's what influenced my decision a lot on this issue. I wish we didn't have to worry about what insurance covers and what it doesn't. Sigh. In a perfect world.

@BrennaKadavsky

There's a lot that would be available in a perfect world that isn't now. Will it ever be a perfect world, and are people capable of having a perfect world? (I'm having one of those days where I ponder the meaning of life)

@actual-fandom-trash

I don't think perfect worlds will ever exist. I don't think they are possible with the world we live in. We can't go back and change what has already happened and we continue to make mistakes like the ones we've made in the past because we are human. And humans are not perfect. We never will be. We could achieve what was considered perfect years ago but it won't be perfect now because things change.
Anyway that's my very tired brain speaking with my single hour of sleep.

@The-N-U-T-Cracker

In a perfect world healthcare would be universal.

Actually, in a truly perfect world, there wouldn't be a need for healthcare. There would never be any pain, suffering, anger, sadness, grief, guilt, mistakes, injuries, or even death. Money would be useless, everyone would get along, pain would be non-existent, everything would be perfect. Which, in this life, is completely impossible.

@The-N-U-T-Cracker

I don’t know much about them, but from what I do know, most of them earned their money from their companies, inventions, etc. and might need that money to continue running their business, paying their workers, or even just living their lives. And while they probably don’t need that much money, they still earned it themselves, it’s their property, so why take it away?

(My opinions aren’t super strong here, I did no research beforehand, I could easily be wrong, don’t instantly take every word I said as fact)

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I don't see why not. Why shouldn't there be billionaires?

@amber_is_in_a_loop

They make for a very different experience, obviously, and so a very different person in the end. Neither one is really bad or anything though, they both have pros and cons.
Personally normal school is a better option because you can socialise and learn a proper curriculum, and it's a great way to ease into society

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Home schooled or public schooled it doesn't matter because the american school system sucks.

@Althalosian-is-the-father book

They make for a very different experience, obviously, and so a very different person in the end. Neither one is really bad or anything though, they both have pros and cons.
Personally normal school is a better option because you can socialise and learn a proper curriculum, and it's a great way to ease into society

Homeschoolers do socialize. That’s how we get friends. We have a better chance of free time to do so as well because we aren’t trapped in boxes. (Figuratively) Proper curriculum? Meaneth what by this statement? Or we can ease into society by having chances to interact with it every day. At nine years old I was holding conversation about anything with whoever was listening. I’m sure that says something about the way homeschooling possibly benefited me.

@amber_is_in_a_loop

I'm not trying to bash homeschooling I'm just citing my opinion, and by what you're saying it might be it's not well informed.
When I say proper curriculum, I mean being taught by degreed teachers and being taught a set system. I'm saying this because in my experience my friends who were homeschooled were taught by their parents and I've just remembered now as I'm typing this that there are tutors.
So. If you have a tutor, it makes no different whether you're in school or not (in relation to learning).

@BrennaKadavsky

So, (and please don't take this as an attack, I'm just being annoyingly blunt) without a degree, one is incapable of teaching another. Maybe our parents are the wrong people to teach us to talk, and to share, and to not hit people with forks. They don't have a degree for teaching their children how to sit still and how to play nicely, so we should find someone who can. I'm just saying, a degree is not required to teach. Parents, simply by being examples, are capable of teaching children so much. Not all parents are good role models, but they don't need a degree to teach their children all the things the teachers expect the kids to know when they first go to preschool. I've been taught so much by other people, not because they were certified, but because they were intelligent.

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't you need teaching credentials for it to count towards fulfilling any education requirements for students?

My cousin was home schooled by his parents (who have zero teaching degrees or credentials) for the first two years of high school, but when he came to public school he had to take all of his freshmen & sophomore credits at the same time that he was doing his junior studies because none of his home school stuff counted. So I do think there is some kind of requirement for teaching. Idk what it is though….

@evastardust groupRRAAAARRL

I've been in public school, private/Catholic school, and am now in online school, and honestly all of them are good.
Private was the best for me personally because of the small class sizes, and I was at least 1 teacher's favorite student.
Public was okay, but too chaotic and stressful for me.
Online is good, you work at your own pace.

However, there is a fine, fine line between homeschooling and home'schooling'. You need to make sure you learn everything the way you should/would at a non-homeschool.

@Moxie group

My sister was homeschooled for three years and my mom went through a charter school that does homeschooling. They gave her all the materials they needed (curriculum, etc.) and they were assigned a "teacher" who had a teaching credential. She checked in with them once a month and would test my sister on things to make sure they were actually learning. But she did tell my mom about many other families she over-saw that struggled to meet the most basic expectations.
In my opinion, homeschooling is most effective when the parent is dedicated and has time to spend one-on-one with their student. I have two friends who were homeschooled for a year each in elementary school and hated it because one of them has two siblings who were also being homeschooled, and the other had three siblings who were also being homeschooled. From what I have heard or experienced, homeschooling is usually done because either the student is having a hard time because their class size is big and they don't get the one-on-one time they need, or their local school sucks and they don't have any other school options that aren't super expensive private school.

@Althalosian-is-the-father book

I'm not trying to bash homeschooling I'm just citing my opinion, and by what you're saying it might be it's not well informed.
When I say proper curriculum, I mean being taught by degreed teachers and being taught a set system. I'm saying this because in my experience my friends who were homeschooled were taught by their parents and I've just remembered now as I'm typing this that there are tutors.
So. If you have a tutor, it makes no different whether you're in school or not (in relation to learning).

Well it kind of depends. Why would someone other than your parent be better than anyone else at finding the best teaching/learning style to suit a person? (Sorry for that sentence.) In my biased opinion, wouldn’t a parent (if they were a semi decent parent or above) be better than anyone else? And not to bash too hard, but that ‘set system’ is failing horribly.
(And I realize this has pretty much already been answered by Brenna, but I couldn’t post last night so… Idk)

@Althalosian-is-the-father book

I've been in public school, private/Catholic school, and am now in online school, and honestly all of them are good.
Private was the best for me personally because of the small class sizes, and I was at least 1 teacher's favorite student.
Public was okay, but too chaotic and stressful for me.
Online is good, you work at your own pace.

However, there is a fine, fine line between homeschooling and home'schooling'. You need to make sure you learn everything the way you should/would at a non-homeschool.

Why? Why is there a “right way” to learn? Why not whatever suits the person best? With homeschooling you have a chance at that. In public (or private) you just have to hope your learning styles match what is in the classroom. And if not, too bad.